I assure you, the incomes of the rich are increasing.  
Their taxes could be raised in order to pay off the 
national debt.
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[reply]  Not in terms of consumer purchasing power.  
You are quite mistaken.  What is (or was) increasing 
are capital gains most of which are unrealized that 
have become "collateral" for increasing consumer 
loans, especially home mortgages against "equity."  
That is what is (or was--the "sharp uptick" in 
interest rates over the last month is worrisome) 
keeping the economy going.  The actual purchasing 
power required to fully amortize the increasing debt 
does not exist.  Because of this, loans in general do 
not amortize but can only feed on themselves in 
Ponzi-like fashion.  This is especially true for the 
rich whose income is mostly on paper not in cash.  A 
much larger percentage of the income of the middle 
class is in cash, which makes it much easier to 
collect taxes from the middle class.

And why should the national debt be "paid off" rather 
than amortized as each specific obligation comes due.  
Debt is a useful and necessary tool of finance and 
there's no reason it shouldn't be for government too.  
Debt itself is not the problem; the problem is the 
impossibility of amortizing the debt as demonstrated 
through A + B.  You go to a restaurant--somebody goes 
into debt to somebody.  It's inherent to doing 
business of even the most basic kind.  You pay before 
you eat, the restaurant is in debt to you.  You pay 
after you eat, you are in debt to the restaurant and 
the restaurant is in debt to the electric company and 
the phone company and the landlord.  In a dynamic--
that is to say living economy there's always debt, 
which in the broadest sense means nothing more that 
contractual obligations that contemplate future 
performance.  An economy that does not utilize debt 
is a very primitive economy indeed.  It can hardly be 
called human; it would have to be more on the order 
of the pre-programmed ants that are the universal 
dream of socialists like yourself.

In terms of debt nothing distinguishes government 
debt from the private sector except the way it keeps 
its books.  Normally a firm going into debt is 
disbursing more cash than it is receiving yet is 
booking a profit.  Government books that as 
"deficit."  It's the difference between accrual and 
cash accounting.
--
 
By government profit, I do mean a surplus - although 
profit
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[reply]  It's certainly not the standard term.
-- 

is the correct term if social services and education 
are spun off to faith based organizations and income 
redistribution happens within the firm rather than 
the society.
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[reply]  Which will happen only if there is one big 
firm like in Soviet Russia or North Korea.  What 
really happens there is that there is very little to 
"redistribute" because there is so little that is 
produced.  But you seem to think it can happen 
through the "privatization" of government services 
and "workplace democracy."  I do not agree.
--  

What remains are energy and mineral extraction, land 
leases and sales and profits from government research 
(which would be licensed rather than given away to 
manufacturers).  This excess would be distributed.

Michael Bindner
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[reply]  That can happen only in "kind" because the 
money isn't there.  So back to primitive barter.

Great!




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