I've just been informed that as of 1st august prices for subscription in the UK will be dropped down to £545. (Still gold subscription)
That's a much more reasonable 20% increase on my last subscription, rather than 70%, and I will probably now upgrade. I wonder how many subscriptions Autodesk has lost through this period though. There must have been a fair few like me who decided it was a pretty unreasonable hike! On 9 July 2012 17:48, John Richard Sanchez <[email protected]> wrote: > Hmmm Well I was paying $795 a year for subscription for XSI last year, I > upgraded to the suite and now my Subscription price is 1,300per year for > full suport or $900 for just upgrades and no phone support. Thats a pretty > steep increase thought It was my choice to upgrade. Still trying to decide > if the 1,300 is worth the money. > > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 3:26 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> yes, '6 versions' made me wonder if a pre-autodesk version could become >> upgradeable again - which didn’t sound like autodesk. >> then again, if it’s a way to get people back to being a paying customer, >> it would be beneficial... >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Graham Bell >> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 12:25 AM >> >> To: [email protected].**com <[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: price increases? >> >> I think for Soft its different, as 6 versions back takes it into Avid >> territory and am not sure how that stands, etc. Though Soft 7.5 was post >> acquisition so not sure about that particular version? >> It appears they have followed the standard support policy which is the >> current verion and 3 versions back - 2012, 2011 and 2010. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> softimage-bounces@listproc.**autodesk.com<[email protected]>[mailto: >> softimage-bounces@**listproc.autodesk.com<[email protected]>] >> On Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: 02 July 2012 19:44 >> To: [email protected].**com <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: price increases? >> >> thanks for getting back graham, >> >> hm 2010, that’s only 3 releases back then - not 6. Oh well. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Graham Bell >> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:56 PM >> To: [email protected].**com <[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: price increases? >> >> Apologies for the late reply, but I believe (though TBC) that the oldest >> upgradeable version for Softimage is 2010. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> softimage-bounces@listproc.**autodesk.com<[email protected]> >> [mailto:softimage-bounces@**listproc.autodesk.com<[email protected]>] >> On Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: 22 June 2012 20:00 >> To: [email protected].**com <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: price increases? >> >> thanks Graham for the clear information. >> it beats rumours, and this doesn’t sound like 'evil coorporation' schemes >> to me, more like standardization of policies. >> >> can you find out which the oldest upgradeable version is? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Graham Bell >> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:53 AM >> To: [email protected].**com <[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: price increases? >> >> Ok, so after following this thread, I met with some of my colleagues and >> we sat down to go through the recent pricing announcements and perhaps try >> and make it clearer, the best that we can. So here goes, however this is >> just from a Europe/EMEA view. Also to the best of my knowledge this applies >> to the majority of Autodesk software, not just M&E, though there are some >> exceptions, I don't know them all. >> >> Changes to the upgrade model for Autodesk software: >> Basically for those who don't know, Autodesk has pricing models for when >> someone wants to upgrade an old version of software to the current version, >> if they haven't been on Subscription (for whatever reason). From February >> 1st 2013, these models are changing >> >> On February 1st 2013, the upgrade pricing model will change so that >> upgrades from 1 - 3 versions back will increase from 50% of the new licence >> SRP to 70% of the new licence SRP. >> >> Upgrades from 4 - 6 versions back will remain at 70% of the new licence >> SRP. >> >> Upgrades from versions older than 6 releases back will not be upgradeable. >> >> Many customers are actually on subscription already, and this continues >> to be the most cost effective way to keep your software current. >> >> >> Subscription price changes: >> >> Autodesk has recently increased the cost of new subscriptions across many >> product lines - these changes apply to subscription renewals from February >> 1st 2013. >> >> However, there is an exception for Softimage which wasn't mentioned >> because >> at this time it is not confirmed. As previously discussed on this list and >> other forums the Softimage subscription price has changed within the last >> year, and is only available as a gold subscription (not wanting to open >> this >> debate here). The subscription price for Softimage is not expected to >> increase further and in many cases might reduce back to a previous price. >> I >> do not know exact details, but information on local prices is expected >> soon. >> And again, I must state that I'm talking from a Europe/EMEA view. I don't >> have any information outside of that. >> >> Multi-year subscription discounts to be phased out: >> >> On August 1st 2012, the discounts for multi-year subscription will reduce >> from 10% to 5% for 3 year contracts and from 5% to 0% for 2 year contracts >> >> On February 1st 2013, the discount for a 3 year renewal will reduce from >> 5% >> to 0% >> >> >> So that's basically the pricing announcements that Autodesk recently made >> which were only focused around the upgrade models and Subscriptions. >> >> >> As for anything else, and to the best of my knowledge, there are no >> further >> price changes planned at this time in EMEA. Unfortunately I cannot >> absolutely state that this won't change in the future or that there will >> not >> be some exceptions. >> >> >> >> >> From: >> softimage-bounces@listproc.**autodesk.com<[email protected]> >> [mailto:softimage-bounces@**listproc.autodesk.com<[email protected]>] >> On Behalf Of Thomas Cannell >> Sent: 19 June 2012 21:50 >> To: [email protected].**com <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: price increases? >> >> Modo does in fact have the ability to edit and build materials with nodes. >> Just add them into the Schematic view and connect away. You will still >> have >> to use it in conjunction with the tree for certain effects as it won't >> support everything you can do with tree. >> >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Thomas Helzle >> <[email protected]<**mailto:[email protected]>**> wrote: >> Steffen, sorry for the confusion - they call it Rendertree as well ;-) >> While it's not node based (and I really am a node addict myself) this is >> much less of a problem than I thought, in some areas it's even better. Now >> that I used it for a while, my old impression (not so different from >> yours, >> Steffen) has changed a lot. >> >> BTW. Lightwave isn't "layerbased" and never really was, Ronald? Current >> versions of Lightwave (for many years now actually) have full blown node >> shading which is in some areas better than XSI (no conversion nodes, yay >> ;-) ) and less good in others (some factory shaders are a bit simple). >> But I >> think the Lightwave Renderer is still top notch and GI is very fast. >> >> Again, I don't think modo is for everybody, but IMO it's more artist >> friendly and -centered approach goes a long way towards getting stuff done >> fast where the big packages can be a bit long in the tooth. >> >> Regarding the price: 20 years ago even a rotating cube was considered >> awesome and you needed a lot of special knowledge, gear and patience for >> even the most simple stuff. Been there, done that. >> But the times are changing and today 3D is no longer something special. >> I see an inflation happening: falling rates, cheaper, better and faster >> gear, more people wanting "in" etc. >> The big tools are up against Blender - with Cycles, Camera Tracking, >> Volumetrics, Fluids, Compositing etc. today. >> Very very different times IMO. >> >> I can't see how Autodesk prices are cost-of-development driven in any >> reasonable way. >> The packages they have already exist. They are noodling around with them a >> bit, but the last time I saw something really impressive in a major 3D >> package was ICE in XSI 7. >> >> But anyway, I don't want to convince anybody of anything here, it's just >> that I get the impression of a serious "Stockholm Syndrome" from some of >> the >> discussions on this list ;-) >> >> Each to his own - YMMV >> >> Best regards, >> >> Tom >> >> On 19 June 2012 12:55, Steffen Dünner >> <steffen.duenner@googlemail.**com <[email protected]> >> <mailto:steffen.duenner@**googlemail.com <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> 2012/6/19 Thomas Helzle >> <[email protected]<**mailto:[email protected]>**> >> especially their render tree >> >> They have a render tree? Node based? >> Last time I checked, all I found was some sort of layer-based stack that >> felt somehow "ancient". Can you point me to a tutorial or feature >> description that shows this render tree? I would be very interested in it. >> >> Cheers >> Steffen >> -- >> PGP-ID(RSA): 0xCCE2E989 / 0xE045734C CCE2E989 >> Fingerprint: 394B 3DA9 9A9A 96C6 3A5A 0595 EF92 EE1F >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ------------ >> puppetstring.com<http://**puppetstring.com <http://puppetstring.com>> >> >> > > > -- > www.johnrichardsanchez.com > > -- www.matinai.com
