+1
thats exactly how i feel right now, having a serious look into Houdini.

best
sebastian


Am 12.09.2012 um 12:59 schrieb olivier jeannel <[email protected]>:

> Hello Maurice,
> 
> "I know Autodesk Marketing is often hard to fathom" Then you (AD) have a 
> serious comunication problem.
> The way AD advertise on SI just creates a panic climate. I'm not sure this 
> will increase the sells.
> All your ways of communicating on SI looks like you're going to interrupt it 
> (Less visibility, minimizing it's capabilities, proposing it as a third party 
> software, firing off some of its "iconic" developers).
> 
> SI is not half package. It's complete. It's scalable and self sufficient.
> 
> My 2 euro cents
> 
> 
> Le 12/09/2012 01:07, Maurice Patel a écrit :
>> Rolling up my sleeves :)
>> If you don't know me, I (still) head Product/Industry Marketing for M&E and 
>> have posted a couple of times on the forum about our strategy.
>> First. I'd like to respond to the link to the campaign item that started 
>> this thread http://yfrog.com/h0t6exxtj:
>> Although I can't say I am particularly fond of that diagram myself (it's 
>> rather ugly), it actually came out of a study commissioned from a third 
>> party research company that hired 3ds Max and Maya animators to evaluate 
>> what (if any) value Softimage, MotionBuilder and Mudbox offered to Maya and 
>> 3ds Max users as a means of determining the value of Suites - so we used it 
>> in the Suites Campaign.
>> The specific purpose of the campaign is to encourage 3ds max and Maya users 
>> to buy Suites; so yes it focuses only on the areas of these applications 
>> that offer significant value above and beyond what Maya and 3ds max can 
>> already do. It is not meant to be an exhaustive description of those 
>> applications capabilities.
>> I know Autodesk Marketing is often hard to fathom - heck it is for us too, 
>> but if we want Softimage to survive we (the marketing team) need to work 
>> with the system not against it. We are not going run a campaign to switch 
>> Maya or 3ds max users to Softimage - that would kill our business and create 
>> a massive customer outcry for no real gain. Any expectation that we would do 
>> that is unrealistic. So, if we are not going to do that, then we need to 
>> find a better way to get people to adopt Softimage and, while not perfect, 
>> Suites has been our best bet yet.
>> Given that, take a pause and ask objectively "where is Autodesk's real 
>> opportunity here?" Is it to run a campaign encouraging Softimage users to 
>> add Maya (or 3ds max) to their toolset? Or vice versa? Which would (1) be 
>> the better business decision and (2) get Softimage in the hands of more 
>> users?
>> You will probably reach the same conclusion we did.
>> In terms of overall exposure, I am not going to deny that Softimage is less 
>> visible than when it was part of Avid. Then Softimage was run as its own 
>> entity and there was 100% focus on one(ish) product (ish because there was 
>> actually a few more than one). That is not the case now. Autodesk runs its 
>> business pretty much as one centralized operation for the sale of efficiency 
>> and scale and so M&E competes with hundreds of other Autodesk products for 
>> mind share when it comes to marketing investment and visibility - and M&E is 
>> not the largest part of Autodesk's business. This dictates exactly how much 
>> coverage M&E gets and how many and what products we can feature on things 
>> like the home page. Oddly enough though, the bulk of our web traffic 
>> actually goes directly to the product pages so it can be argued that this 
>> specific point is moot anyway. But yes, visibility is reduced and suffers as 
>> a function of a given product's ranking in the Autodesk product stack.
>> Believe me, I have similar discussions with Flame users who also believe we 
>> have abandoned marketing Flame. Deep down most of this is related to our 
>> centralized marketing processes discussed above and not to any individual. 
>> This is not going to change nor is it clear that any alternative could be 
>> successful and/or profitable. Or at least not in the sense one might expect. 
>> In the long run Suites and Cloud Services are changing the way Autodesk 
>> views products but not in the traditional sense. My team's constant 
>> challenge is therefore to figure out how to increase visibility within the 
>> systems we have - be it through more aggressive social media strategies (why 
>> we launched the Softimage Facebook page) or other methods. While the good 
>> old days have nostalgic value (and yes we remember when Discreet Logic had 
>> its own website, as did Alias and Softimage, with their own dedicated 
>> Marketing resources), we have long realized we can never go back to those 
>> days. The battles have moved o
>>  n to ne
>> w battlefields - but it does continue!
>> Maurice
>> 
>> Maurice Patel
>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>> 
>> 
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