Mmm.... Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic fallacy
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy> with that. Also I'm not
sure Modo was ever intended to replace Lightwave. Maybe, just not sure...?
I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an
important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series
of tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room with very few
systems (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...). But the vast
majority of 3D applications out there, including Softimage (minus ICE),
are built to address specific, known production needs. I don't think
it's fair to criticize the choice to design an application this way,
simply because such a design choice indicates that the developer is
trying to meet artists' known needs. Certainly there's absolutely no
denying the power and flexibility of a platform like ICE/Houdini, which
essentially opens up a layer between the raw API and the immediate
toolset exposed to the user, allowing them to create new tools via
node-based programming. But if that's /all /we had, I doubt many of us
could get our work done on time. Most of us still need traditional,
focused toolsets as well.
/As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility of
doing their own due diligence in evaluating it/. There's no definite
answer to 'can it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It just depends on
what your needs are, like everything else. In its current state and
because of our pipeline here at Magnetic, I use Modo primarily as a
swiss army knife. Just yesterday I was able to load in an illustrator
file with complicated curves into Modo, set them to be renderable, then
bake that geometry cache into something I could export (rims all around
these intricate designs on a stained glass window). Could not have done
that nearly as easily otherwise, not by a mile. Took me 30s in Modo.
Stuff like that is a stress relief for me!
Anyway, I would LOVE to see a truly procedural platform like ICE come to
Modo. Who wouldn't?
-Tim
On 3/6/2014 11:25 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the
original programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed to
replace Lightwave. I feel like they tend to want to build specific
tools to fill specific needs instead of opening things up the way ICE
does.
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien Sterling
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Lightwave mentality Paul ?
On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'd love to sit in on a webinar. Modo scares me a little bit
in that they still seem to have the LW mentality there.
-Paul
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact
information again to e-mail him directly?
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
More contact from Brad off-list.... He says the
following...
/I've been thinking about how this all went down and
I'm feeling a bit sad about it. I have a new idea.
People should not feel like they have to rush to make
a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be
for years to come. Rather than offering another promo
code what I would like to do is offer an extended
trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60
day license. My offer still stands that anyone who
talks to me directly will also find that I am a man of
my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't
publicly extend that offer but I will stand by it for
anyone on that list.//
//
/
/I would also be willing to set up an invitation only
webinar for the list so we can talk openly under a
"gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up some of the
confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and
share some short, mid and long term goals for the
product. Finally, I'm getting quite a bit of email
this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight
away please feel free to send your email again. I
won't be offended to get spammed. :)/
If you guys are interested in taking him up in his
webinar idea, please voice it! I'm pretty sure he can
read these messages on the Google group, but if not
I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
-Tim
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