Count me in as well
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Sebastien Sterling < [email protected]> wrote: > Webinar sounds cool would love to hear where things are going > > > On 6 March 2014 18:54, Maurício PC <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm also in for the webinar. Brads webinar are always fun and he can >> convey and express himself really well. Looking forward to it. >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Michael Clarke <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Count me in for the webinar. >>> >>> >>> Very interested to see what could become of the package if it has some >>> customer-focused dedication behind it. >>> >>> I suspect my strategy at this point shared by a number of other users. >>> I'll continue to use SI and take the Maya path for the moment. The real >>> decision will be whether to continue with maintenance or to continue to use >>> SI (an probably Maya) without a viable upgrade path. Either way, i am going >>> to be looking for a package to fill in some gaps and MODO looks like a >>> reasonably priced quality alternative with a future. If in two years it >>> looks like it could one day be a truly complete app comparable to AD's >>> offerings, then the decision to cut ties with AD becomes less difficult. Up >>> until that point — and as some have pointed out already, several years >>> beyond, — SI will remain a functional tool capable of handling most of my >>> needs. >>> >>> MODO can at minimum be something of a stopgap to hedge the risks. It >>> looks like fairly low cost way of providing a buffer to the current >>> dilemma. It's value as a supplemental tool is worth looking into, whether >>> or not it ever becomes a primary production tool. The whole relationship >>> with The Foundry feels good at this point. >>> >>> One more thing. AD had some great people working there, and most of the >>> folks who interacted with customers were extremely dedicated and helpful. >>> What I always sensed from them, however, was a disconnect between the >>> support and development teams, and the decision makers within the company. >>> That's something smaller companies like LUX/Foundry can handle differently. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm not looking for MODO to become my primary tool. >>> >>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eugen Sares <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> In for that webinar, too... >>> >>> >>> ------ Originalnachricht ------ >>> Von: "Tim Crowson" <[email protected]> >>> An: [email protected] >>> Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30 >>> Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word >>> from Brad Peebler >>> >>> >>> Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore.... :-) >>> >>> -Tim >>> >>> >>> On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote: >>> >>> Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail >>> things. >>> >>> I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's. Brad >>> Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days. There's a whole drama >>> around how Modo came about. >>> ᐧ >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Mmm.... Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic >>>> fallacy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy> >>>> with that. Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to replace >>>> Lightwave. Maybe, just not sure...? >>>> >>>> I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an >>>> important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series of >>>> tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room with very few >>>> systems (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...). But the vast >>>> majority of 3D applications out there, including Softimage (minus ICE), are >>>> built to address specific, known production needs. I don't think it's fair >>>> to criticize the choice to design an application this way, simply because >>>> such a design choice indicates that the developer is trying to meet >>>> artists' known needs. Certainly there's absolutely no denying the power and >>>> flexibility of a platform like ICE/Houdini, which essentially opens up a >>>> layer between the raw API and the immediate toolset exposed to the user, >>>> allowing them to create new tools via node-based programming. But if that's >>>> *all *we had, I doubt many of us could get our work done on time. Most >>>> of us still need traditional, focused toolsets as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> *As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility of >>>> doing their own due diligence in evaluating it*. There's no definite >>>> answer to 'can it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It just depends on what >>>> your needs are, like everything else. In its current state and because of >>>> our pipeline here at Magnetic, I use Modo primarily as a swiss army knife. >>>> Just yesterday I was able to load in an illustrator file with complicated >>>> curves into Modo, set them to be renderable, then bake that geometry cache >>>> into something I could export (rims all around these intricate designs on a >>>> stained glass window). Could not have done that nearly as easily otherwise, >>>> not by a mile. Took me 30s in Modo. Stuff like that is a stress relief for >>>> me! >>>> >>>> Anyway, I would LOVE to see a truly procedural platform like ICE come >>>> to Modo.. Who wouldn't? >>>> >>>> -Tim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/6/2014 11:25 AM, Paul Griswold wrote: >>>> >>>> Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the >>>> original programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed to replace >>>> Lightwave. I feel like they tend to want to build specific tools to fill >>>> specific needs instead of opening things up the way ICE does. >>>> ᐧ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien Sterling < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Lightwave mentality Paul ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'd love to sit in on a webinar. Modo scares me a little bit in that >>>>>> they still seem to have the LW mentality there. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> ᐧ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to >>>>>>> e-mail him directly? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson < >>>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> More contact from Brad off-list..... He says the following... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a >>>>>>>> bit sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> to rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would >>>>>>>> like to >>>>>>>> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can >>>>>>>> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My >>>>>>>> offer >>>>>>>> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that >>>>>>>> I am >>>>>>>> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly >>>>>>>> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for >>>>>>>> the list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to >>>>>>>> clear >>>>>>>> up some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and >>>>>>>> share >>>>>>>> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm >>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me >>>>>>>> straight >>>>>>>> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to >>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>> spammed. :)* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea, >>>>>>>> please voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the >>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>> group, but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Tim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> <http://www.avast.com/> >>> >>> Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware, denn der avast! >>> Antivirus<http://www.avast.com/> >>> Schutz ist aktiv. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Michael Clarke Design >>> Blue C Studios >>> 713-927-9835 >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> gonebadfx.com >> - your source for bad fx >> > >
