Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore.... :-)
-Tim
On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail
things.
I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's. Brad
Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days. There's a whole
drama around how Modo came about.
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Mmm.... Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic fallacy
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy> with that. Also I'm
not sure Modo was ever intended to replace Lightwave. Maybe, just
not sure...?
I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an
important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just
series of tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room
with very few systems (Houdini, Maya internally as I
understand...). But the vast majority of 3D applications out
there, including Softimage (minus ICE), are built to address
specific, known production needs. I don't think it's fair to
criticize the choice to design an application this way, simply
because such a design choice indicates that the developer is
trying to meet artists' known needs. Certainly there's absolutely
no denying the power and flexibility of a platform like
ICE/Houdini, which essentially opens up a layer between the raw
API and the immediate toolset exposed to the user, allowing them
to create new tools via node-based programming. But if that's /all
/we had, I doubt many of us could get our work done on time. Most
of us still need traditional, focused toolsets as well.
/As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility
of doing their own due diligence in evaluating it/. There's no
definite answer to 'can it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It
just depends on what your needs are, like everything else. In its
current state and because of our pipeline here at Magnetic, I use
Modo primarily as a swiss army knife. Just yesterday I was able to
load in an illustrator file with complicated curves into Modo, set
them to be renderable, then bake that geometry cache into
something I could export (rims all around these intricate designs
on a stained glass window). Could not have done that nearly as
easily otherwise, not by a mile. Took me 30s in Modo. Stuff like
that is a stress relief for me!
Anyway, I would LOVE to see a truly procedural platform like ICE
come to Modo. Who wouldn't?
-Tim
On 3/6/2014 11:25 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the
original programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed
to replace Lightwave. I feel like they tend to want to build
specific tools to fill specific needs instead of opening things
up the way ICE does.
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien Sterling
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Lightwave mentality Paul ?
On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'd love to sit in on a webinar. Modo scares me a little
bit in that they still seem to have the LW mentality there.
-Paul
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact
information again to e-mail him directly?
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
More contact from Brad off-list.... He says the
following...
/I've been thinking about how this all went down
and I'm feeling a bit sad about it. I have a new
idea. People should not feel like they have to
rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still
awesome and will be for years to come. Rather
than offering another promo code what I would
like to do is offer an extended trial of MODO for
anyone who wants it. They can contact me directly
and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My
offer still stands that anyone who talks to me
directly will also find that I am a man of my
word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I
can't publicly extend that offer but I will stand
by it for anyone on that list.//
//
/
/I would also be willing to set up an invitation
only webinar for the list so we can talk openly
under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up
some of the confusion about MODO being built as a
modeler only and share some short, mid and long
term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting
quite a bit of email this week so if someone
doesn't hear from me straight away please feel
free to send your email again. I won't be
offended to get spammed. :)/
If you guys are interested in taking him up in
his webinar idea, please voice it! I'm pretty
sure he can read these messages on the Google
group, but if not I'm happy to convey your
corporate response.
-Tim
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