Webinar sounds cool would love to hear where things are going

On 6 March 2014 18:54, Maurício PC <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm also in for the webinar. Brads webinar are always fun and he can
> convey and express himself really well. Looking forward to it.
>
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> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Michael Clarke <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Count me in for the webinar.
>>
>>
>> Very interested to see what could become of the package if it has some
>> customer-focused dedication behind it.
>>
>> I suspect my strategy at this point shared by a number of other users.
>> I'll continue to use SI and take the Maya path for the moment. The real
>> decision will be whether to continue with maintenance or to continue to use
>> SI (an probably Maya) without a viable upgrade path. Either way, i am going
>> to be looking for a package to fill in some gaps and MODO looks like a
>> reasonably priced quality alternative with a future. If in two years it
>> looks like it could one day be a truly complete app comparable to AD's
>> offerings, then the decision to cut ties with AD becomes less difficult. Up
>> until that point — and as some have pointed out already, several years
>> beyond, — SI will remain a functional tool capable of handling most of my
>> needs.
>>
>> MODO can at minimum be something of a stopgap to hedge the risks. It
>> looks like fairly low cost way of providing a buffer to the current
>> dilemma.  It's value as a supplemental tool is worth looking into, whether
>> or not it ever becomes a primary production tool. The whole relationship
>> with The Foundry feels good at this point.
>>
>> One more thing. AD had some great people working there, and most of the
>> folks who interacted with customers were extremely dedicated and helpful.
>> What I always sensed from them, however, was a disconnect between the
>> support and development teams, and the decision makers within the company.
>> That's something smaller companies like LUX/Foundry can handle differently.
>>
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>> I'm not looking for MODO to become my primary tool.
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eugen Sares <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> In for that webinar, too...
>>
>>
>> ------ Originalnachricht ------
>> Von: "Tim Crowson" <[email protected]>
>> An: [email protected]
>> Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
>> Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word
>> from Brad Peebler
>>
>>
>> Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore....  :-)
>>
>> -Tim
>>
>>
>> On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>>
>> Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail
>> things.
>>
>> I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's.  Brad
>> Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole drama
>> around how Modo came about.
>> ᐧ
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Mmm.... Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic 
>>> fallacy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy>
>>>  with that. Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to replace
>>> Lightwave. Maybe, just not sure...?
>>>
>>> I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an
>>> important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series of
>>> tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room with very few
>>> systems (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...). But the vast
>>> majority of 3D applications out there, including Softimage (minus ICE), are
>>> built to address specific, known production needs. I don't think it's fair
>>> to criticize the choice to design an application this way, simply because
>>> such a design choice indicates that the developer is trying to meet
>>> artists' known needs. Certainly there's absolutely no denying the power and
>>> flexibility of a platform like ICE/Houdini, which essentially opens up a
>>> layer between the raw API and the immediate toolset exposed to the user,
>>> allowing them to create new tools via node-based programming. But if that's
>>> *all *we had, I doubt many of us could get our work done on time. Most
>>> of us still need traditional, focused toolsets as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> *As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility of
>>> doing their own due diligence in evaluating it*. There's no definite
>>> answer to 'can it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It just depends on what
>>> your needs are, like everything else. In its current state and because of
>>> our pipeline here at Magnetic, I use Modo primarily as a swiss army knife.
>>> Just yesterday I was able to load in an illustrator file with complicated
>>> curves into Modo, set them to be renderable, then bake that geometry cache
>>> into something I could export (rims all around these intricate designs on a
>>> stained glass window). Could not have done that nearly as easily otherwise,
>>> not by a mile. Took me 30s in Modo.  Stuff like that is a stress relief for
>>> me!
>>>
>>> Anyway, I would LOVE to see a truly procedural platform like ICE come to
>>> Modo.. Who wouldn't?
>>>
>>> -Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/6/2014 11:25 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>>>
>>> Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the
>>> original programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed to replace
>>> Lightwave.  I feel like they tend to want to build specific tools to fill
>>> specific needs instead of opening things up the way ICE does.
>>> ᐧ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lightwave mentality Paul ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little bit in that
>>>>> they still seem to have the LW mentality there.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> ᐧ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to
>>>>>> e-mail him directly?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson <
>>>>>> [email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More contact from Brad off-list..... He says the following...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a
>>>>>>> bit sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would 
>>>>>>> like to
>>>>>>> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
>>>>>>> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My 
>>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I 
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
>>>>>>> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for
>>>>>>> the list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to 
>>>>>>> clear
>>>>>>> up some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and 
>>>>>>> share
>>>>>>> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm 
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me 
>>>>>>> straight
>>>>>>> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to 
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> spammed. :)*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea,
>>>>>>> please voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the 
>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>> group, but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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