Lets do it!

Jordi Bares
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On 6 Mar 2014, at 18:09, "Eugen Sares" <[email protected]> wrote:

> In for that webinar, too...
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> ------ Originalnachricht ------
> Von: "Tim Crowson" <[email protected]>
> An: [email protected]
> Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
> Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from 
> Brad Peebler
>  
>> Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore....  :-)
>> 
>> -Tim
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>>> Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail 
>>> things.  
>>> 
>>> I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's.  Brad 
>>> Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole drama 
>>> around how Modo came about.
>>> ᐧ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim 
>>> Crowson<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Mmm.... Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic fallacy with that. 
>>> Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to replace Lightwave. Maybe, just 
>>> not sure...?
>>> 
>>> I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an important 
>>> distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series of tools to 
>>> meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room with very few systems 
>>> (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...). But the vast majority of 3D 
>>> applications out there, including Softimage (minus ICE), are built to 
>>> address specific, known production needs. I don't think it's fair to 
>>> criticize the choice to design an application this way, simply because such 
>>> a design choice indicates that the developer is trying to meet artists' 
>>> known needs. Certainly there's absolutely no denying the power and 
>>> flexibility of a platform like ICE/Houdini, which essentially opens up a 
>>> layer between the raw API and the immediate toolset exposed to the user, 
>>> allowing them to create new tools via node-based programming. But if that's 
>>> all we had, I doubt many of us could get our work done on time. Most of us 
>>> still need traditional, focused toolsets as well.
>>> 
>>> As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility of doing 
>>> their own due diligence in evaluating it. There's no definite answer to 
>>> 'can it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It just depends on what your 
>>> needs are, like everything else. In its current state and because of our 
>>> pipeline here at Magnetic, I use Modo primarily as a swiss army knife. Just 
>>> yesterday I was able to load in an illustrator file with complicated curves 
>>> into Modo, set them to be renderable, then bake that geometry cache into 
>>> something I could export (rims all around these intricate designs on a 
>>> stained glass window). Could not have done that nearly as easily otherwise, 
>>> not by a mile. Took me 30s in Modo.  Stuff like that is a stress relief for 
>>> me!
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I would LOVE to see a truly procedural platform like ICE come to 
>>> Modo.. Who wouldn't?
>>> 
>>> -Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/6/2014 11:25 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>>>> Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the original 
>>>> programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed to replace 
>>>> Lightwave.  I feel like they tend to want to build specific tools to fill 
>>>> specific needs instead of opening things up the way ICE does. 
>>>> ᐧ
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien 
>>>> Sterling<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Lightwave mentality Paul ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul 
>>>> Griswold<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little bit in that they 
>>>> still seem to have the LW mentality there.
>>>> 
>>>> -Paul
>>>> 
>>>> ᐧ
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>> I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to 
>>>> e-mail him directly?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim 
>>>> Crowson<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> More contact from Brad off-list..... He says the following...
>>>> 
>>>> I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a bit sad 
>>>> about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have to rush 
>>>> to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for years to 
>>>> come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like to do is 
>>>> offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can contact 
>>>> me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My offer still 
>>>> stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I am a man 
>>>> of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly extend 
>>>> that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.
>>>> 
>>>> I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for the list 
>>>> so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up some 
>>>> of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and share some 
>>>> short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting quite 
>>>> a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight away 
>>>> please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get 
>>>> spammed. :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea, please 
>>>> voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google group, 
>>>> but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>>>> 
>>>> -Tim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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