"I work for Autodesk and that was the spirit of the statement that you quoted."
And what's the spirit now Chris? How you guys can go from "passionate creators of cool software" to "lying pieces of shit" so fast is just.....inspiring? What people shouldn't forget here, is most of all the timing you chose. Even while trying to bury SI since you bought it, even while moving its developers away from it, and moving the dev team to freaking Singapore, even then, the community around SI was *thriving like never before*! And this is the really thing that cannot be forgiven, and shouldn't be forgiven, or forgotten. The reason why you chose to kill this software and this technology now. If it was a matter of economics, if it was a matter that SI somehow was draining money, despite the fact that you were pouring millions and millions for marketing on it.....then maybe things would be a bit different. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Chris Vienneau <[email protected] > wrote: > Hi Mihai, > > No it was not my decision to kill Softimage but I am not pointing up hill > or to a nameless figure in the darkness as I work for Autodesk and that was > the spirit of the statement that you quoted. I am here for those people > that want to know more about what we are doing for the film vfx industry > with our products. You can attack me personally all you want and others can > join in if they want. I have been in front of softimage users face to face > the last two months and if my path crosses you in the next while I will sit > with you to hear you out. > > Cv/ > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mihai Iliuta > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 4:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Listening > > Are you kidding me?? You're saying he's just a receiver of orders, and > didn't know anything about what was actually being decided? And if that's > the case, when he ALSO eventually found out, he still continues to work for > such people? Or what are you saying exactly? > More of his bullshit: > "This leads me to my next point. Autodesk is not a person and people > posting Autodesk did this or said this on this board is surreal for us and > it alienates the community from the company............ we listen here or > at Siggraph or on customer visits and we go back and we all work to make > you guys happy and help you make the awesome stuff you do every day. Making > it seem like old white guys in robes are pulling the strings actually takes > away from this forum as it is a place where the top companies and artists > get to talk like we were at the pub or waiting for a render." > So when somebody lies to your face, repeatedly, what do you call them? How > much respect do you still have for them? > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Daniel Kim <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > Agree with Mauricio > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Daniel Kim > Animation Director & Professional 3D Generalist > http://www.danielkim3d.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Maurício PC <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > Come on ... is not like he has the final say on things. Attacking him > personally won't solve a thing. > > Let's all act like grown ups. > > > I curse AD as a company ... but as a company it has employees and most of > the time they don't have a fault on how things worked out. > > > Anyway ... just chill out on the personal attacks. > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mihai Iliuta <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > You are listening?? > Ok, listen to your own bullshit: > > "The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage > and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false." > > "Cory Mogk is now also responsible for Softimage and we have been working > with the team on the future of the product with lots of key customers." > > "We understand people make their living from this software and that they > make huge decisions about their projects and companies and we take that > responsibility very seriously." > > "Again the door is open to contact us or challenge us. Please let everyone > you know their products are safe." > > So today, we can safely say you are a lying piece of shit. You have no > dignity, you have no character, and you have no word. I can't imagine any > developer feeling any pride anymore working for you or this fucked up > company. What you have done here and HOW you've done it, is irreparable and > you and your company is from now on going downhill. You expect anybody to > ever trust you or your company again? Is that worth anything for a > business? It's worth everything. > Nobody finds it in the least suspicious why SI was killed now? When the > whole community around SI and the nr of independent developers working > developing tools for it was at an all time high??? > I don't know when you lost your balls and your word Mr. Vienneau, but > "good luck" regaining both. > > Piece of shit. > > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Perry Harovas <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > While Dan's heart is breaking (and so is mine), I still have (at least) > one nagging question: > > Clearly this has been under discussion for a while at Autodesk, so why > were the following comments > from September 5th of 2012 made: > > "The rumor that the EOL of Softimage and 3DS Max is upon us is totally > false." > > So, if I understand this correctly, what I get out of it is that when > Autodesk assures customers that their product is not on the chopping block, > that statement is really only good for about a year and a half (less if > you take into account that this EOL must have been decided a while back). > > That doesn't imbue anyone with much confidence. I am not a 3DS Max user, > but if I was, I think I'd be worried, and would take any Autodesk > assurances that there was no reason to worry > with a very large grain of salt. > > Can someone please, finally, address this? > > Thank you > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Tim Crowson < > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > Thanks Chris! And thanks as well for the update to the licensing terms. > That's a big deal. > -Tim > > On 3/7/2014 2:14 PM, Dan Pejril wrote: > Good to know you are listening. > > If you listen closely, you can heart my heart breaking.... > > On 3/7/2014 3:01 PM, Chris Vienneau wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I just want to let you know there are people from the maya dev and pm > teams coming online to this forum but we are shipping software and > answering a lot of calls but the mails you are writing are being passed > back and forth as they are coming at a furious pace. Stay tuned for some > answers and we plan on doing some private webinars under NDA for soft users > to ask questions direct to us. Anyone interested in such a thing please > write me a private mail at [email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]><mailto:[email protected]><mailto: > [email protected]> . > > Thx. > > Cv/ > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Perry Harovas > 203-448-7206<tel:203-448-7206> > Animation and Visual Effects > > http://www.TheAfterImage.com<http://www.theafterimage.com/> > > -24 years experience > -Co-Author of "Mastering Maya"< > http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Maya-Complete-Perry-Harovas/dp/0782125212> > -Member of the Visual Effects Society (VES)< > http://www.visualeffectssociety.com/> > > > > > -- > gonebadfx.com<http://gonebadfx.com> > - your source for bad fx > > >
