Yes, I guess that’s one way you could look at it. Another way might be that it might make more sense from the financial point of view, depending on your circumstances of course. Previously, I think you could get away with dropping off subs for maybe a year or two, because the upgrade policy/price (for 3 versions back) was only 50% of the price of a new seat. Some were prepared to swallow that cost. Now that has changed and all upgrades are currently 70%, it's a far bigger hit. If you always want to be current, then being on Subs is the better option. And as of Feb 1st 2015, users will be unable to upgrade old versions to the current version, so if you want the current version you have to buy a new seat. However, there’s more options for purchasing now, with the various Desktop Subscriptions options available. Like with any kind of purchasing, the trick is to do your sums. Though I can’t comment about what other vendors do, as tbh, I don’t have all the facts.
As for versions that are older than 3 versions, this did come up in a previous thread some time ago. I couldn’t find the thread, but I believe I checked at the time and customers (via the Subscription Center) could request a license for an older version if you needed to access old data. http://upandready.typepad.com/up_and_ready/2014/01/previous-use-license-request-running-software-that-is-more-than-3-versions-back.html G From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mirko Jankovic Sent: 11 August 2014 16:17 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: EOL and using older Softimages How ever you put it it is stil fact that model was made ONLY to push people to subs meaning steady income for AD with less need to actually improve anything in each new version. AND That model is retarded for this kind o industry as there are a lot of people with need to access old projects that for this or that reason someone need to open up, some from 5 years ago. That model is simply not something that works with what is reality as it is pointed out so many times here. On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Graham Bell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Point of note – the ability to have previous version usage has been a benefit to active Subscription customers (only), for some time now. And (barring some exceptions) this applies across the entire Autodesk portfolio, so Softimage isn’t being single out here. Also Softimage 2012 is still available to customers with running 2015 and active Subscriptions. Previous version usage, and support, is for the current versions and 3 versions back. G From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: 10 August 2014 12:01 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: EOL and using older Softimages > preventing the use of previous versions unless you basically commit forever, and even then – only 3 versions back! 2012 is now officially off-limits for subscription customers. I remember a message from an AD rep here, suggesting not to upgrade a few licenses just in order to keep access to an older version - thus diluting one’s license park. it’s anti-customer behavior, directed ONLY at licensed and paying customers, devaluating their investment. what you did up to 3 years ago is being ‘obsoleted’ - for long format work that’s like saying: your previous project is off bounds. This in an industry (entertainment) thriving on sequels ! funny reading just the other day about Weta’s own new renderer in that other thread – where they mention opening shots from “old” projects such as Tintin or the first Hobbit – and re-rendering them. Where this was actually a design constraint they set themselves. And here’s AD going: hey, if we can prevent you from doing this, we will! Sure, you can try and open those scenes on a newer version, and pray nothing breaks. Oh right, if you’re on Maya, don’t forget to recompile all those plugins you don’t have the source code for. Doh. > Personally can't wait for competition. Amen to that. I stuck it out on Softimage, waiting for the next gen software from AD to replace Maya/Max/XSI. Definitely not doing that anymore - at this point my ONLY criterium for a replacement is that it isn’t AD. On 08/09/14 8:22, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: Yes you lose the right to run three versions back when the subscription lapses. You can only run the last version you installed. On Aug 8, 2014 2:09 PM, "phil harbath" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: What was the final verdict on using older versions of Softimage, I saw on the EOL page you could use up to 3 versions back. Does that require the user to be on active subscription. My case is I am on 2015 but my subscription just lapsed. Phil Harbath jamination
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