It's just silly to expect peeps to pay subscription every year, just to be able to revisit old projects, even if they don't want to switch to Maya or Max.
Of course this subscription model is what makes AD the most bucks, but come on !! Someone at AD show us there's actual people making decisions here and AD is not just some blind business model that simply follows the money and squeezes as much out of it's customers no matter what. -Ronald On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Mirko Jankovic <[email protected]> wrote: > How ever you put it it is stil fact that model was made ONLY to push > people to subs meaning steady income for AD with less need to actually > improve anything in each new version. > AND > That model is retarded for this kind o industry as there are a lot of > people with need to access old projects that for this or that reason > someone need to open up, some from 5 years ago. > That model is simply not something that works with what is reality as it > is pointed out so many times here. > > > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Graham Bell <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Point of note – the ability to have previous version usage has been a >> benefit to active Subscription customers (only), for some time now. And >> (barring some exceptions) this applies across the entire Autodesk >> portfolio, so Softimage isn’t being single out here. >> >> Also Softimage 2012 is still available to customers with running 2015 and >> active Subscriptions. >> Previous version usage, and support, is for the current versions and 3 >> versions back. >> >> G >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: 10 August 2014 12:01 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: EOL and using older Softimages >> >> > preventing the use of previous versions unless you basically commit >> forever, >> >> and even then – only 3 versions back! >> >> 2012 is now officially off-limits for subscription customers. >> I remember a message from an AD rep here, suggesting not to upgrade a few >> licenses just in order to keep access to an older version - >> thus diluting one’s license park. >> it’s anti-customer behavior, directed ONLY at licensed and paying >> customers, devaluating their investment. >> >> what you did up to 3 years ago is being ‘obsoleted’ - >> for long format work that’s like saying: your previous project is off >> bounds. This in an industry (entertainment) thriving on sequels ! >> funny reading just the other day about Weta’s own new renderer in that >> other thread – where they mention opening shots from “old” projects such as >> Tintin or the first Hobbit – and re-rendering them. Where this was actually >> a design constraint they set themselves. >> >> And here’s AD going: hey, if we can prevent you from doing this, we will! >> >> Sure, you can try and open those scenes on a newer version, and pray >> nothing breaks. Oh right, if you’re on Maya, don’t forget to recompile all >> those plugins you don’t have the source code for. Doh. >> >> > Personally can't wait for competition. >> >> Amen to that. I stuck it out on Softimage, waiting for the next gen >> software from AD to replace Maya/Max/XSI. >> Definitely not doing that anymore - at this point my ONLY criterium for a >> replacement is that it isn’t AD. >> >> >> >> >> On 08/09/14 8:22, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: >> >> Yes you lose the right to run three versions back when the subscription >> lapses. You can only run the last version you installed. >> On Aug 8, 2014 2:09 PM, "phil harbath" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> What was the final verdict on using older versions of Softimage, I saw >> on the EOL page you could use up to 3 versions back. Does that require the >> user to be on active subscription. My case is I am on 2015 but my >> subscription just lapsed. >> >> >> Phil Harbath >> jamination >> >> > -- Ronald van Vemden ----------------------------------------------- 3D Graphics & Animation Cyberfish Laboratories | www.cyberfish.nl Toonafish | www.toonafish.nl tel. +31(0)20 5289291 fax +31(0)20 5289292 email: [email protected]
