I never heard of a company that "blended" two 3D animation softwares 
successfully, sorry dude. That will never happen. What I was told the last 24 
month talking to 3ds max users was: "Hell, they changed the GUI again in this 
release! WTF!" 

They (the ppl I talked to) did not even mention new feature or something.

Ok, now ADSK says the icons are now good. But they did say this in the last 
release when they changed the fucking icons!

It's all about cosmetics and polishing. It's of no use to change the coating on 
a dead horse every fucking single release. I would not have worked with 
softimage the last decade if they changed the GUI in every release just to 
distract from missing functionality.

 

If you want to make sure you're working with a strong and solid software, the 
best indication is its not changing its look. 

Sorry for the f-words and beeing emotional.

 

sven 

 

 

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sylvain Lebeau
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:03 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: OT: Hypershade changes in Maya 2016

 

You point is still good Sven. 

 

Of course Maya’s Gui is far from getting to the point Xsi is… I profoundly 
think that Xsi got the best Gui in all softwares that ever existed.  The new 
aqua icons are not a revolution of course. Still good to the eye to paint the 
old car with a fresh clear coating. :-) 

 

We’ve had Autodesk at our studio a couple of times and I must admit they we’re 
very opened to listen to us softimage users. And they we’re taking good notes. 
I think they are doing good efforts to keep Xsi users happy in the transition 
while at the same time not frustrate good old Maya users.  It will take time to 
blend the two. 

 

 

About ICE.  Maya is node based all around and I cannot imagine AD to own these 
(ICE) pattents and not create the same workflow inside of Maya. With new 
operops, and merging all of it’s tools inside of a new unified workflow node 
UI. Of course this will take time to make everything talk togheter. But to me, 
it should be the priority for AD to implement this.  

 

I barely see any other futur ventures that could bring back Maya as the top 
contender in the 3D world. Houdini is pushing hard. And it’s doing just that at 
it’s roots.  So if they want to compete in the long term, it really should be 
in the oven.  Well I hope so for them. 

 

 

Does 2016 finally got the node based UI for Bitfrost? Would be a good start. I 
was on beta but never got the time to play with it. 

 

 

We’ll see in a week or two. But so far nothing about this in the videos. 

 

sly

 

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On Apr 13, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Sven Constable <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de> wrote:

 

sry, didn’t want to adress the developers of course. But the company behind 
them. Marketing means something. The more overwhelming positive it is, the more 
it turns me towards other directions. Same with Newtek and lightwave years ago.

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 2:18 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: OT: Hypershade changes in Maya 2016

 

I had a look at the vids and must say the whole GUI looks as sturdy and antique 
like before. Besides this, if a developer says something is the "biggest thing 
ever"…I'll take it as a  warning sign.

 

sven 

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of adrian wyer
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 6:32 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: OT: Hypershade changes in Maya 2016

 

looks like a biog step in the right direction, kudos to the devs

 

now, about ICE.......

 

a

 

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From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Luc-Eric Rousseau
Sent: 13 April 2015 17:11
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: OT: Hypershade changes in Maya 2016

 

The node editor remembers the last graph when you reopen it.  Tabs allow you to 
remember multiple graphs.

On Apr 13, 2015 11:02 AM, "Ognjen Vukovic" <ognj...@gmail.com> wrote:

What irkes me is the fact that you need to create tabs to save your network 
graph lay out. This should just be default instead of drawing it out every time 
you decide you to graph it... Its not really that important, but its just 
shabby.

 

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Simon Reeves <si...@simonreeves.com> wrote:

yeah it's much better, the node editor is much improved, responsive when making 
connections much more rendertree/ice like than the clumsy old version

 

They could have improved the horrible shaderball area though...

 

 






Simon Reeves

London, UK

si...@simonreeves.com
www.simonreeves.com <http://www.simonreeves.com/> 

www.analogstudio.co.uk <http://www.analogstudio.co.uk/> 

 

On 13 April 2015 at 10:47, Angus Davidson <angus.david...@wits.ac.za> wrote:

Makes me somewhat sad that there will be no new features for  Si 2016, However 
must say while I am forced to use Maya I am at least excited about the 
hypershade finally getting some much needed love. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRVXXw5NZC0

 

 

 

 



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