Fred: The way I phrased the call for the interim meeting on the mailling list might have created some unwanted confusion.
Yong and I are going to publish the agenda for the interim meeting very soon. There will be ample time to discuss the various propositions on the table in the 'stateless' arena (that I can define loosely as no centralized CGN) Some more stateless than others, some more stateful than others, some based on tunnels and some based on translation. Giving ample time to discuss all those solution is the very reason of the interim meeting. Is that clearer? - Alain. On Sep 7, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > Alain: > > I have a question. In your recent note to softwire, you seem to be changing > the charter that you and Jari stated in v6ops at IETF-81. At IETF-81, you > stated that there was no need for a translation-related working group because > translation (specifically the dIVI proposal, but more generally translation) > would be part of the ongoing softwire charter. In your more recent > statements, you appear to be saying that the topic would be discussed in a > "vs" setting and buried "because the IETF has decided to not work on > translation". I'll remind you that the IETF has not only chosen to work on > translation, but to standardize it along with tunneling technologies. > > I call on you to not only give lip service to discussion, but to allow and > support open discussion of stateless a+p tunneling (as apposed to ds-lite, > which is stateful) and translation, as you said you would. > > Fred > >> Alain's "translation" statement is ~2hrs 57 min into the recording at: >> http://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf81/ietf81-205abc-20110728-1256-pm.mp3 >> >> Transcript: >> >> Alain: This is done in Softwire. We are planning to organize >> an interim meeting in September, in some part of the world, >> to actually go through all the technical solutions that have >> been put forward and analyze them and do what we did at the >> beginning of Softwires. Pretty intensive interim meeting, >> locked in a room, and figure out what we need. >> >> Fred: So, Alain, we are finally going to have the discussion. >> >> Alain: We are actually going to make technical progress on >> this - more than just discussing. >> >> Jari suggested doing everything in one group (implying a new WG). >> >> Alain: there are no more groups. We will just do it now. > _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires
