Hi Med,

I agree with Woj.

I do not favor moving this draft to somewhere else.

Instead this draft should be revised to make it
Multicast extensions to DS-Lite as in the charter.

There is enough time to do it.

Regards,

Behcet

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:43 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Woj,
>
> Your comment is valid.
>
> The point I wanted to make is to recall the initial motivation of this
> draft: solve an issue raised by DS-Lite people.
>
> Evidently, the proposed approach can be deployed in any 4-6-4 scenario. This
> will be reflected in the updated version of the draft.
>
> Cheers,
> Med
>
> ________________________________
> De : Wojciech Dec [mailto:[email protected]]
> Envoyé : vendredi 8 juin 2012 09:57
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP
> Cc : [email protected]; Stig Venaas; [email protected]; Yong Cui
>
> Objet : Re: [Softwires] WG last call on
> draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast-02
>
> Hello Med,
>
> there is no dependency here on ds-lite, ie This has all the hallmarks of a
> standalone solution, which will almost certainly be implemented as such, and
> one that will work with or without ds-lite for unicast.
>
> Regards,
> Woj.
>
> On 8 June 2012 07:48, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Re-,
>>
>> May I re-iterate:
>>
>> * The draft is designed to allow the delivery of multicast services to
>> DS-Lite serviced customers.
>> * The draft proposes multicast extensions and not unicast ones.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Med
>>
>> >-----Message d'origine-----
>> >De : Behcet Sarikaya [mailto:[email protected]]
>> >Envoyé : jeudi 7 juin 2012 20:20
>> >À : Stig Venaas
>> >Cc : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP; [email protected]; Yong Cui
>> >Objet : Re: [Softwires] WG last call on
>> >draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast-02
>> >
>> >On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Stig Venaas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> On 6/7/2012 10:08 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 8:07
>> >AM,<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >
>> >>> So you are saying that this draft does not correspond to
>> >>> Multicast extensions for DS-Lite?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I sent a separate review, but anyway, it is not an extension to
>> >> DS-Lite as I see it. It is a completely generic approach for
>> >> tunneling v6 through v4. It can certainly be deployed in DS-Lite
>> >> scenarios, but it is much more generic. I would like the title and
>> >> the text to reflect that.
>> >
>> >So it means that this draft does not correspond to Softwire charter
>> >item and we discover this quite late in the process.
>> >
>> >My recommendation to the chairs is to read and double check the draft
>> >before making an adoption call, especially if there is choice.
>> >
>> >As I mentioned in my mboned mail, in multicast transition I think the
>> >right approach is to agree to the fact that most of the host's
>> >communication will be unicast. For unicast, v4-v6 transition has
>> >already been well analyzed and several protocols have been specified.
>> >Multicast extensions to those protocols are what we need.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Behcet
>> >
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