Yiu,

> Set EA bits=0 only saves bits in v6 address and decouples v4/v6 address
> dependency. It doesn't bring any new function compared to embedding full
> v4 address in the EA-bit. However, the operation models of EA-bit>0 or =0
> are very different. By the way, this works only for MAP-E. I fail to see
> why we want to include this in the base spec.

what do you say in the spec if EA=0 and provisioned IPv4 prefix length = 32.
the spec has to say something about this to be complete.

cheers,
Ole


> 
> Thanks,
> Yiu
> 
> 
> On 7/25/12 9:45 PM, "Satoru Matsushima" <satoru.matsush...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Yiu,
>> 
>> On 2012/07/26, at 4:08, Lee, Yiu wrote:
>> 
>>> Ole,
>>> 
>>> Where can I get the formal definition of 1:1 mode? My understanding of
>>> 1:1
>>> refers to one public IPv4 address per subscriber but you refer very
>>> specific to decoupling IPv4 and IPv6 addresses.
>>> 
>> 
>> It doesn't 1:1 in MAP and 4rd context, because embedding full ipv4
>> address in ea-bits is as a result of prefix allocation operation.
>> 
>>> Before MAP was accepted as WG item, MAP was proposed to embed IPv4
>>> address
>>> information (EA bits > 0) in the CE IPv6 address to achieve stateless.
>> 
>> No, there was no such definition for EA-bits length restriction.
>> 
>>> Now there is a new proposal to add a new feature to have the IPv4
>>> information
>>> in the BR only. This change requires to provision individual subscriber
>>> information to the BR (instead of aggregated information). Benefit are
>>> saving bits and breaking v4 and v6 address dependency.
>> 
>> There's no change from previous spec, to just clarify MAP, as a stateless
>> solution, could naturally support most granular mapping rule in its
>> nature.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Questions to WG:
>>> Is it useful feature to be included in MAP? If not, why and alternative?
>>> 
>> 
>> I believe that it does not make sense to restrict EA-len > 0 for both MAP
>> and 4rd. It does make sense that you see MAP as framework of solutions
>> which covers specific 1:1 solution by the mapping algorithm.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> --satoru
>> 
>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Yiu
>>> 
>>> On 7/25/12 2:40 PM, "Ole Trøan" <otr...@employees.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yiu,
>>>> 
>>>>> I am not asking whether MAP supports 1:1 mode with no EA bits or not.
>>>>> I
>>>>> am
>>>>> asking MAP allows to embed the 32-bit address in the EA bits to
>>>>> achieve
>>>>> 1:1 mode:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "The EA bits can contain a full or part
>>>>> of an IPv4 prefix or address, and in the shared IPv4 address case
>>>>> contains a Port-Set Identifier (PSID)."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why not use this instead?
>>>> 
>>>> you can do either.
>>>> embedding a complete IPv4 address and PSID does require a lot of IPv6
>>>> space though.
>>>> e.g. /56 - 32 - 6 = /18
>>>> 
>>>> 1:1 mode is typically referred to a model where IPv4 and IPv6
>>>> addressing
>>>> are independent.
>>>> 
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Ole
>>>> 
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