Ole,

IMHO the WG will need to decide whether EA=0 should be covered at all. If
not, then the draft could explicitly mention EA must be > 0 and must
contain v4 information in the CE address. If the WG decided this needed to
be cover, I would recommend to have a new draft to cover it and leave EA=0
undefined in the base draft.

Thanks,
Yiu 

On 7/26/12 6:22 AM, "Ole Trøan" <otr...@employees.org> wrote:

>Yiu,
>
>> Set EA bits=0 only saves bits in v6 address and decouples v4/v6 address
>> dependency. It doesn't bring any new function compared to embedding full
>> v4 address in the EA-bit. However, the operation models of EA-bit>0 or
>>=0
>> are very different. By the way, this works only for MAP-E. I fail to see
>> why we want to include this in the base spec.
>
>what do you say in the spec if EA=0 and provisioned IPv4 prefix length =
>32.
>the spec has to say something about this to be complete.
>
>cheers,
>Ole
>
>
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Yiu
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/25/12 9:45 PM, "Satoru Matsushima" <satoru.matsush...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Yiu,
>>> 
>>> On 2012/07/26, at 4:08, Lee, Yiu wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ole,
>>>> 
>>>> Where can I get the formal definition of 1:1 mode? My understanding of
>>>> 1:1
>>>> refers to one public IPv4 address per subscriber but you refer very
>>>> specific to decoupling IPv4 and IPv6 addresses.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> It doesn't 1:1 in MAP and 4rd context, because embedding full ipv4
>>> address in ea-bits is as a result of prefix allocation operation.
>>> 
>>>> Before MAP was accepted as WG item, MAP was proposed to embed IPv4
>>>> address
>>>> information (EA bits > 0) in the CE IPv6 address to achieve stateless.
>>> 
>>> No, there was no such definition for EA-bits length restriction.
>>> 
>>>> Now there is a new proposal to add a new feature to have the IPv4
>>>> information
>>>> in the BR only. This change requires to provision individual
>>>>subscriber
>>>> information to the BR (instead of aggregated information). Benefit are
>>>> saving bits and breaking v4 and v6 address dependency.
>>> 
>>> There's no change from previous spec, to just clarify MAP, as a
>>>stateless
>>> solution, could naturally support most granular mapping rule in its
>>> nature.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Questions to WG:
>>>> Is it useful feature to be included in MAP? If not, why and
>>>>alternative?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I believe that it does not make sense to restrict EA-len > 0 for both
>>>MAP
>>> and 4rd. It does make sense that you see MAP as framework of solutions
>>> which covers specific 1:1 solution by the mapping algorithm.
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> --satoru
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Yiu
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/25/12 2:40 PM, "Ole Trøan" <otr...@employees.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yiu,
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am not asking whether MAP supports 1:1 mode with no EA bits or
>>>>>>not.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> asking MAP allows to embed the 32-bit address in the EA bits to
>>>>>> achieve
>>>>>> 1:1 mode:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "The EA bits can contain a full or part
>>>>>> of an IPv4 prefix or address, and in the shared IPv4 address case
>>>>>> contains a Port-Set Identifier (PSID)."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why not use this instead?
>>>>> 
>>>>> you can do either.
>>>>> embedding a complete IPv4 address and PSID does require a lot of IPv6
>>>>> space though.
>>>>> e.g. /56 - 32 - 6 = /18
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1:1 mode is typically referred to a model where IPv4 and IPv6
>>>>> addressing
>>>>> are independent.
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> Ole
>>>>> 
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