Greg Rogers, a Fire Marshal hereabouts, made a comment to me the other day. He said that in some cases a jurisdiction might have some good reason to require a higher standard of care than 13D provides. In my opinion storage in the attic (non-living space) of a true townhouse would not be such a case but others I'm sure will disagree. Greg's point was that instead of tacking property protection requirements onto a life safety system, the purpose of which is to get sprinklers into the living areas of SFDs economically, jurisdictions should require instead require full 13 systems for their special applications and then reduce the requirements (presumably by statute) as appropriate. So if this attic situation is a true problem then it's a property protection issue rather than life safety one. Require 13 but delete garages, crawlspaces, etc. and reduce density to .05. If parking seaplanes in garages is a problem (a real life scenario) then require sprinklers per 13 in the garage and maybe increase the density but allow omission in attics and other non-occupied areas. In short, quit trying to make 13D a property protection standard and accept it for its intent.
On 2/26/08, David Autry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Attics in 13D systems don't require sprinklers. 8.6.5 (2002) > > > David Autry > Plans Examiner > Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office > 246 S. 14th Street > Lincoln, NE 68508 > 402-471-9659 > 402-471-3118 fax > www.sfm.ne.gov > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:16 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: 2nd request 13d attic storage > > Doesn't anyone have something to say? > > We are beginning to see more 13d installations here and I know some of you > disagree but one of the local AHJ's only require 13d systems in townhomes. > > Some of these buildings are being framed and decked for small storage areas > in the attics much like most of us have in our own homes.These areas > typically do not have enclosed walls and ceiling is the sloped roof deck. > > How are you AHJ's handling this? Are you just placing heads above the > storage deck or are you requiring the areas to be enclosed as a room? > > The challenge is obviously freeze protection. In a room that is heated there > is no problem except the local AHJ then interprets the room as another floor > which cause other building code issues. > > Any experiences \ ideas? > > Thank you, > Greg McGahan > > Living Water Fire Protection, LLC > 1160 McKenzie Road > Cantonment, FL 32533 > 850-937-1850 > Fax: 850-937-1852 > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman at home.... _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
