Charles,
I don't get the distinction here?

On 3/11/08, Charles Thurston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello A.P.Silva,
>
> In my opinion I would have to agree all AID's should be zoned by floor.
> This is due to the use of the word "AND" in the following line. If the
> word
> was "OR" I would be on your side of the fence.
>
> > "Alarm initiating devices" are given as "heat detectors,
> > waterflow switches and manual stations".
>                      ^^^
> Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 2:12:35 AM, you wrote:
>
> > This is a 30,000 sq.ft. residential 4 storey building of combustible
> > construction. The building code limits building area to approx. 18,000
> > sq.ft. My understanding is the firewalls are due to this area limit.
> 30,000
> > sq.ft. building split into three, approx. 10,000 sq.ft. each. The
> building
> > code also states that on the actuation of "alarm initiating devices" the
> > fire alarm annunciator shall have separate zone indication for each
> "floor
> > area". Floor area is defined as the space between the exterior walls and
> > required firewalls. "Alarm initiating devices" are given as "heat
> detectors,
> > waterflow switches and manual stations". My interpretation is that the
> > intent of the code is satisfied if any one of the alarm initiating
> devices
> > (AID) satisfy the zoning requirement. The AHJ insists that "all" AID's
> > should be zoned per "floor area".
>
> > What I'd like to know is if other building codes have similar
> annunciator
> > requirements, and if so, is the sprinkler system zoned for each fire
> > compartment?
>
> > Tony
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland
> > Huggins
> > Sent: March 10, 2008 2:56 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Horizontal Exits
>
> > Considering that a 4 story building can be a SINGLE zone for ALL floors,
> > still can't see the barrier driving a split per floor zoning.  The
> mention
> > of triggering smoke control does flag that it
> > could be a performance based design building, then all bets are off.
> > For a PBD, such thing are documented.
>
> > You may very well being dealing with a "seemed like a good idea at the
> time"
> > issue.
>
> > Roland
>
> > On Mar 10, 2008, at 1:55 PM, Justin Reid wrote:
>
> >> Zoning the sprinkler system to one side versus the other will tell the
> >> fire department which side of the horizontal exit the fire is located.
> >> They may be stating that separate zoning is needed so they know which
> >> side of the horizontal exit to respond to. That is the only reason I
> >> can think of to zone the two sides differently. And to answer your
> >> question, I have not seen a system split into two zones for just a
> >> horizontal exit. But I am a newbie ( <5 years in the business so I
> >> would defer to others on that).
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>   Charles Thurston    CET                        mailto:
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