Hello Ron, I consider it like "Should" and "Shall" in the codes. Should = They would like you to Shall = You are going to
And = all of these Or = Any of these After 20 years in the Alarm business I learned to follow that rule of thumb. Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 10:18:04 AM, you wrote: > Charles, > I don't get the distinction here? > On 3/11/08, Charles Thurston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hello A.P.Silva, >> >> In my opinion I would have to agree all AID's should be zoned by floor. >> This is due to the use of the word "AND" in the following line. If the >> word >> was "OR" I would be on your side of the fence. >> >> > "Alarm initiating devices" are given as "heat detectors, >> > waterflow switches and manual stations". >> ^^^ >> Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 2:12:35 AM, you wrote: >> >> > This is a 30,000 sq.ft. residential 4 storey building of combustible >> > construction. The building code limits building area to approx. 18,000 >> > sq.ft. My understanding is the firewalls are due to this area limit. >> 30,000 >> > sq.ft. building split into three, approx. 10,000 sq.ft. each. The >> building >> > code also states that on the actuation of "alarm initiating devices" the >> > fire alarm annunciator shall have separate zone indication for each >> "floor >> > area". Floor area is defined as the space between the exterior walls and >> > required firewalls. "Alarm initiating devices" are given as "heat >> detectors, >> > waterflow switches and manual stations". My interpretation is that the >> > intent of the code is satisfied if any one of the alarm initiating >> devices >> > (AID) satisfy the zoning requirement. The AHJ insists that "all" AID's >> > should be zoned per "floor area". >> >> > What I'd like to know is if other building codes have similar >> annunciator >> > requirements, and if so, is the sprinkler system zoned for each fire >> > compartment? >> >> > Tony >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland >> > Huggins >> > Sent: March 10, 2008 2:56 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: Horizontal Exits >> >> > Considering that a 4 story building can be a SINGLE zone for ALL floors, >> > still can't see the barrier driving a split per floor zoning. The >> mention >> > of triggering smoke control does flag that it >> > could be a performance based design building, then all bets are off. >> > For a PBD, such thing are documented. >> >> > You may very well being dealing with a "seemed like a good idea at the >> time" >> > issue. >> >> > Roland >> >> > On Mar 10, 2008, at 1:55 PM, Justin Reid wrote: >> >> >> Zoning the sprinkler system to one side versus the other will tell the >> >> fire department which side of the horizontal exit the fire is located. >> >> They may be stating that separate zoning is needed so they know which >> >> side of the horizontal exit to respond to. That is the only reason I >> >> can think of to zone the two sides differently. And to answer your >> >> question, I have not seen a system split into two zones for just a >> >> horizontal exit. But I am a newbie ( <5 years in the business so I >> >> would defer to others on that). >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sprinklerforum mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> > To Unsubscribe, send an email >> to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sprinklerforum mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> > To Unsubscribe, send an email >> to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Charles Thurston CET mailto: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Coastal Fire Protection >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> -- Best regards, Charles Thurston CET mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Coastal Fire Protection _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
