Any reasonable person that's been in or around business for any length
of time these past 30 years must know that such a story simply cannot be
true.   There just aren't any genuine computer geeks that can hold their
liquor for entire happy hour, let alone the time it would take to design
a PC.

SML


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd
Williams
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Concealed plastic pipe

I don't know, Steve. The original Compaq computer (and I believe the 
first portable computer) was designed by 3 guys at happy hour.


At 01:16 PM 12/16/2010, you wrote:
>Several years ago at a concert, a friend of mine tried to convince me
>that if you cut the bottoms out of two beer cups and hang them on your
>ears, the music sounds WAY better and more focused, especially the base
>frequencies.   Of course, this was at a Grateful Dead concert and the
>last we saw of him for the day he was dancing through the crowd with
>beer cups on his head.   Since then, I have taken most scientific
>theories put forth by my acquaintances with a dose of skepticism that
is
>exponentially related to the level (and quality) of their intoxication
>during the period of "experimentation".
>
>SML
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>Richardson, R
>Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:26 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: Concealed plastic pipe
>
>I certainly have doubts as well, but it should be noted that there was
>an air space in the pipe
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd -
>FPDC
>Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 07:04
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Concealed plastic pipe
>
>Uh...  If there wasn't a hole somewhere to relieve the pressure, it
>could have exploded. I have my doubts.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Dec 16, 2010, at 9:54 AM, "Richardson, R" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
> > I have a friend who claimed to have filled a small section of CPVC
>sprinkler pipe with water, capped it, threw it into the campfire, then
>went back to drinking. The following morning the pipe was intact
amongst
>the ashes the next day.  Could be a BS story, I don't know.
> >
> > Rich Richardson
> > Seattle Fire Department
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan
Arbel
> > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 04:39
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: Concealed plastic pipe
> >
> > Probably when exposed to fire it is protected by the water spray
>whilst
> > above the tiles there is no immediate direct exposure no spray
>protection
> > was afforded.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > http://www.riskmanage.com
> > Dan Arbel
> > T+972-4-8243337;
> > F+972-4-8243278;
> > M+972-52-2810593
> > M+972-52-6611337,
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geir
>Jensen
> > Sent: 16 December, 2010 2:03 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Concealed plastic pipe
> >
> > We are assessing a case of plastic sprinkler pipework in concealed
>space.
> > There is an issue of correct listing or not. This is under European
> > standards, however fairly similar to NFPA 13.
> >
> > What I want to know: What is the actual risk of using plastic wet
>sprinkler
> > pipe in a lowered ceiling space, given a listing as exposed plastic
>wet
> > sprinkler pipe?  Maybe no concerns?  I read NFPA 13 Annex A6.3.6 on
>this and
> > cannot really get my head around. Why is there a risk of removed
>ceiling
> > tile when the pipework is elsewhere directly exposed to fire?
> >
> > Geir Jensen
> > COWI Fire
> > Technical Director
> >
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