I've been told that Code trumps Standard. What 8.1.1 is stating is that WHEN the Building Code requires sprinkler protection for a building, the sprinkler protection extends to every portion of that building, i.e., THROUGHOUT. There are no areas such as electrical rooms or coolers or high bay areas, etc. that are exempt just because someone doesn't think the sprinklers will be beneficial or may pose a problem.
That paragraph does not apply to buildings which are not required to be sprinklered in the first place. You design and install the partial system based on the NFPA 13 requirements for that particular area. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From the NFPA 13 2007 Handbook: Principles for spacing, location, and position of sprinklers are found in 8.1.1. Unless NFPA 13 specifically permits the omission of sprinklers in a certain area, sprinklers are required. In some situations, this requirement can result in conflicts with other regulations. It is not possible for NFPA 13 to address every possible situation and arrangement; therefore, the requirements of 8.1.1 provide general guidance to ensure that, where unique situations arise, the fundamental principles are clearly defined. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: non-required systems But let's say the applicable code is IBC which allows a partial system and requires 13 for the installation requirements.. Can he then install the partial system or does the rule in 13 requiring sprinklers throughout trump the IBC allowance of partial protection? On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:20 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > A prime example of this would be an office building that by code doesn't > require sprinklers but the owner decides to install them anyway. If he does > then the installation must conform to the applicable Code and Standard. > > This is not really that complicated. > > > Craig L. Prahl, CET > Fire Protection > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 > Direct - 864.599.4102 > Fax - 864.599.8439 > CH2MHILL Extension 74102 > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:04 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: non-required systems > > The exception in section 901.2 of the IBC (2003) states: "Exception: Any > fire protection system or portion thereof not required by this code shall be > permitted to be installed for partial or complete protection provided that > such system meets the requirements of this code." Does this mean that an > Architect/Owner can pick and chose what the wants to protect if the system > is not required? Anybody dealt with this from a liability standpoint? > > Todd G. Williams, PE > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > Stonington, CT > 860.535.2080 > www.fpdc.com > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
