Amen brother what do those guys know anyway? Just kidding. Todd Letterman Fire Prevention Engineer CFPS Riverside County Fire Department "Fire never sleeps" (951) 955-5273 FAX (951) 955-4886 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Standpipe FDC Inlets
I'd say the guy that has to run into the building trumps the guy sitting at a desk in the state capitol. SML -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Standpipe FDC Inlets OK. The local Fire Marshal (local AHJ) has jurisdiction over his municipality. The State Fire Marshal (state AHJ) has jurisdiction over the state, which includes the municipality. One says yes, one says no. Whose authority overrides? Since in CT, the local FMs can only enforce the Code and not modify it, I would assume that the state would trump the local. At 12:09 PM 2/1/2012, you wrote: >Read the definition of "Approved". In a nutshell, if the AHJ is >requiring one, then it's approved. > >SML > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd >Williams >Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:08 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Standpipe FDC Inlets > >Steve, I'm going by what was issued by the CT State Fire Marshal. (could >not attach it. Google "Storz fire UL" . It should be the first listing). >I did not look in 14, but 13 does require the FDC to be "of an approved >type" (6.8.5 in 2002 and 6.8.3 in 2010). Unless things have changed >since this was written, there are no approved Storz connections for FDC >use. I am not aware of any. Some municipalities have ignored this in >some situations, but this is what the ruling at the state level is. > > >At 11:51 AM 2/1/2012, you wrote: >>Hold on there Todd. An FDC can be approved - see 6.8.1.1 and other >>references in both 13 and 14. If the serving FD wants an FDC >>configured a certain way because that's how they're equipped and >>programmed for firefighting operations, then by all means give the >>EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT. It's their connection ... >> >>SML >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd >>Williams >>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:45 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: Standpipe FDC Inlets >> >>At 11:28 AM 2/1/2012, you wrote: >>>Now, what has the forum done when the AHJ requires a 5"X4" storz >>>connection instead? We have only been putting one for standpipes >>>1000gpm and under. >>>Dewayne >> >> >>I tell them that since they are not UL listed for fire service, they >are >>not legal in the State of Connecticut (per State Fire Marshal) >> >> >> >> >>Todd G. Williams, PE >>Fire Protection Design/Consulting >>Stonington, CT >>860.535.2080 >>www.fpdc.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>_______________________________________________ >>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >Todd G. Williams, PE >Fire Protection Design/Consulting >Stonington, CT >860.535.2080 >www.fpdc.com > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860.535.2080 www.fpdc.com _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
