Your statement earlier holds true only if portions of the system are being 
replaced. I was under the assumption the entire system was being replaced, in 
which increasing diameter will not be more demanding.

And yes, there is more to calcs...

Duane

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Matthew Willis
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 7:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: copper pipe vs CPVC

There is more to a calc than just pressure. Flow is also part. Why do you think 
we are required to pick the sprinkler closer to the main on a tree calc?
R/
Matt
On Aug 11, 2014 7:23 AM, "Duane Johnson" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> No, no, no.  As long as you are increasing the ID along the primary 
> path, you are not making the calc more demanding. Increasing the ID 
> reduces the friction loss per ft. and reduces the overall required 
> pressure of the system.
>
> Duane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew 
> Willis
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 7:54 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: copper pipe vs CPVC
>
> Especially since the I.D. like you said is larger. This often = more 
> demanding. Bigger is not always better.
>
> R/
> Matt
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Brad Casterline 
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > It just occurred to me though Douglas (on a smoke break as usual) I 
> > would be worried that the existing pipe size is per code, so I would 
> > calc it anyway.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brad Casterline [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 3:30 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: copper pipe vs CPVC
> >
> > Both C=150 and the best part is it looks like the I.D of CPVC is 
> > bigger than type K,L, and M copper.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Douglas Hicks [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 1:41 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: copper pipe vs CPVC
> >
> > One of our group homes has leaking copper pipe.  The owner told me 
> > their experience is to replace the copper with CPVC.  I like that, 
> > faster and easier for us.  But, do I need to get the system 
> > re-engineered when changing to CPVC?  Can I just replace size for 
> > like size?
> >
> > The system is 20+ years old so I am going to propose new sprinklers.
> > Besides, some of the heads are corroded and some have paint on them.
> > We will also provide a means to test the antifreeze, at present 
> > there is no way to test the solution.
> >
> > I  am going to exclude sheet rock and painting from the job.
> >
> > Douglas Hicks
> > General Fire Equipment Co of Eastern Oregon, Inc 
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