I've used them on Fixed Water Spray system as far back as 1982, for transformer 
systems. And on a coal conveyor deluge system at the Navajo generating station 
in 1983.

Richard L. Mote ET
Design Manager
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Brad Casterline
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 12:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: two control valves in a deluge system riser?

Thanks Jack.

I was just told that this allowance of an additional valve for testing is new, 
(starting with 2013), but I have not verified that.

Brad 

-----Original Message-----
From: Fairchild, Jack [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 11:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: two control valves in a deluge system riser?

See FM Global data sheet 5-32 Fig 3.

|   JACK FAIRCHILD, CFPS
    SENIOR ASSOCIATE, FIRE PROTECTION AND LIFE SAFETY
    B  A  L  L  I  N  G  E  R
    215 446 0596


-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Richard Mote
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 11:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: two control valves in a deluge system riser?

What he said, I've called for them on freezer systems so they can be can
trip tested without filling the entire system.
I have also used them on fixed water spray systems in situations where you
really don't water on what your protecting unless it's on fire. For example
transformers, coal conveyers, bearing boxes, burner fronts and the like.

Richard L. Mote ET
Design Manager
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.



-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Spencer Allen
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 11:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: two control valves in a deluge system riser?

Partial Trip Test?

I have installed these on pre-action and deluge before.  Very useful when
testing the activation pre-comissioning.

Best Regards,

Spencer Allen

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Brad Casterline
Sent: 25 August 2014 16:35
To: [email protected]
Subject: two control valves in a deluge system riser?

Co-worker is looking at a contractor's riser detail. Systems are straight
water deluge, protec-o-wire (electric activation).

There is a BF control valve at the header AND one on top of the deluge
valve.

Exhibit 7.8, page 210 of NFPA 13 2013 handbook shows something similar.  

Does anyone know the reason for two control valves?

 

thanks,

 

Brad Casterline, NICET IV

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FSC, Inc.

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