Would the lithium battery storage fall under the requirements of storage in
NFPA 484? This does address lithium storage, but not lithium battery
storage.

Thanks,

Michael Goodis     
Estimator, Project Manager
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Augusta, GA 30906
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of David Blackwell
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Lithium battery storage

FYI - In case some of you were not aware, the term has changed to SDS and
the requirements for the forms being produced now have changed.  
See the OSHA website at
https://www.osha.gov/dsg/hazcom/effectivedates.html

The following section of text was extracted [in part] from a document linked
from the main OSHA HCS page at
https://www.osha.gov/dsg/hazcom/:

The Hazard Communication standard (HCS) has been revised to align with the
United Nations Globally Harmonized System of Classification and Labeling of
Chemicals (GHS Revision 3, 2009). This includes updates to the requirements
for labeling and for safety data sheets (SDSs).
[...]changes in enforcement due to the release of the revised HCS published
in the Federal Register on March 26, 2012. The revised standard changes
"hazard determination" to the specific requirements for hazard
classification of chemicals, standardizes label elements for containers of
hazardous\ chemicals, and specifies the format and required content for
SDSs. [...] Chemicals must be evaluated in accordance with specific guidance
outlined in Appendices A and B of the standard. The hazard classification
will result in the specification of pictograms, signal word, hazard
statements, and precautionary statements which must be included on the
labels. Specifications for these label elements are provided in Appendix C
of the standard. The SDSs will have a standardized 16-section format (see
Appendix D of the standard) and includes the information from the hazard
classification (e.g., hazard class, pictogram).


Respectfully,

David Blackwell 

David Blackwell, P.E.
Chief Engineer
(803)896-9833

Office of State Fire Marshal
141 Monticello Trail | Columbia, SC 29203
http://scfiremarshal.llronline.com/
(803)896-9800

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Lithium battery storage

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You have to look at a consensus amongst data, not just one MSDS or not just
one study.

In this particular case there are no absolutes, no guarantees of any
results.  Take the info provided and use that to make your best case for a
methodology.



Craig L. Prahl
Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SC  29303
Direct - 864.599.4102
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of å... ....
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Lithium battery storage

Do we realize who writes those MSDS ?   Although MSDS content has gotten
better over the years... just saying think about the quality of analyses in
some of those MSDS's.

This commodity is non-standardized territory.
If ecological considerations are a factor, then dump loads of water warrants
a second look.

We might be able to guarantee control of a Li-battery fire with lots of
water, but until we get *LOTS* of water, we can't guarantee extinguishment
using water only, either.

The engineers at Boeing probably have some experience with suppressing
Li-battery fires.   Even though 'in safety there should be no secrets...'
 tell that to the economists.


Scot Deal
Excelsior Risk/Fire Engineering
Scot Deal
Excelsior Risk/Fire En
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