No, lithium and lithium batteries are two distinctly different hazards. Craig L. Prahl Fire Protection Group Lead/SME CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29303 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 [email protected]
-----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of michael G Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 1:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Lithium battery storage Would the lithium battery storage fall under the requirements of storage in NFPA 484? This does address lithium storage, but not lithium battery storage. Thanks, Michael Goodis Estimator, Project Manager IL#000635 NICET#135586 Key Fire Protection Enterprises LLC 3200 Mike Padgett HWY Augusta, GA 30906 Office- (706)790-3473 Cell- (706) 220-8822 Fax: (706) 738-2119 -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Blackwell Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Lithium battery storage FYI - In case some of you were not aware, the term has changed to SDS and the requirements for the forms being produced now have changed. See the OSHA website at https://www.osha.gov/dsg/hazcom/effectivedates.html The following section of text was extracted [in part] from a document linked from the main OSHA HCS page at https://www.osha.gov/dsg/hazcom/: The Hazard Communication standard (HCS) has been revised to align with the United Nations Globally Harmonized System of Classification and Labeling of Chemicals (GHS Revision 3, 2009). This includes updates to the requirements for labeling and for safety data sheets (SDSs). [...]changes in enforcement due to the release of the revised HCS published in the Federal Register on March 26, 2012. The revised standard changes "hazard determination" to the specific requirements for hazard classification of chemicals, standardizes label elements for containers of hazardous\ chemicals, and specifies the format and required content for SDSs. [...] Chemicals must be evaluated in accordance with specific guidance outlined in Appendices A and B of the standard. The hazard classification will result in the specification of pictograms, signal word, hazard statements, and precautionary statements which must be included on the labels. Specifications for these label elements are provided in Appendix C of the standard. The SDSs will have a standardized 16-section format (see Appendix D of the standard) and includes the information from the hazard classification (e.g., hazard class, pictogram). Respectfully, David Blackwell David Blackwell, P.E. Chief Engineer (803)896-9833 Office of State Fire Marshal 141 Monticello Trail | Columbia, SC 29203 http://scfiremarshal.llronline.com/ (803)896-9800 -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Lithium battery storage *** SCDLLR NOTICE *** This email is from an external email address. Please use caution when deciding whether to open any attachments or when clicking links inside the email. You have to look at a consensus amongst data, not just one MSDS or not just one study. In this particular case there are no absolutes, no guarantees of any results. Take the info provided and use that to make your best case for a methodology. Craig L. Prahl Fire Protection Group Lead/SME CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29303 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of å... .... Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Lithium battery storage Do we realize who writes those MSDS ? Although MSDS content has gotten better over the years... just saying think about the quality of analyses in some of those MSDS's. This commodity is non-standardized territory. If ecological considerations are a factor, then dump loads of water warrants a second look. We might be able to guarantee control of a Li-battery fire with lots of water, but until we get *LOTS* of water, we can't guarantee extinguishment using water only, either. The engineers at Boeing probably have some experience with suppressing Li-battery fires. Even though 'in safety there should be no secrets...' tell that to the economists. 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