Travis, Let's see...I have that AHJ Head out of Posterior form letter somewhere... here it is! It starts with; "because I need to justify my bid extra request, can you please provide me with the code reference that you are referring to..."
Brad: Good info John Paulsen - SET Crown Fire System Design 6282 Seeds Rd. Grove City, OH 43123 P - 614-782-2438 F - 614-782-2374 C - 614-348-8206 -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hairfield Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 2:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Fire Sprinkler Plan to Match Evacuation Plan?? Tell the AHJ to get his head out of his Butt and to provide you with the specificcode section that requires this. Back in 1986 I had a project that the AHJ required the sprinkler zones and fire alarmzones match the same footprint. He backed off when NFPA told him he was incorrect. Mike > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Fire Sprinkler Plan to Match Evacuation Plan?? > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 14:38:47 -0400 > > Travis: > > Not sure about AZ, but in Ohio the smoke control zone and evac plans > are part of the architect's original structural submission to plan > review. In some cases, preliminary fire alarm device layout and > sprinkler design criteria plans are also included, pending submission > of shop drawings from the installing contractor. Final sprinkler and > fire alarm system shop drawings are submitted by the installing > contractors. So the plan reviewer has all of that information before > we submit. But much of your post still makes little sense. I-2 > Occupancies are normally fully sprinklered and have a full smoke > detection fire alarm system. So assuming both systems remain functional, how could they not work together.....? > > I can't wait to see how other members of the exchange comment. > > John Paulsen - SET > Crown Fire System Design > 6282 Seeds Rd. > Grove City, OH 43123 > P - 614-782-2438 > F - 614-782-2374 > C - 614-348-8206 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 2:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Fire Sprinkler Plan to Match Evacuation Plan?? > > His comment said "Typically the building is designed with multiple > smoke compartments to provide refuge areas for relocation of the occupants. > The fire alarm and fire sprinkler systems need to be designed to work > with the evacuation plan. This plan cannot be reviewed without first > having a copy of the evacuation plan and the sprinkler plan and alarm > plan need to work together to meet the objectives of the evacuation plan." > > First time in 27 years I have seen a comment like this. > > Travis Mack, SET > MFP Design, LLC > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > 480-505-9271 > fax: 866-430-6107 > email:[email protected] > > http://www.mfpdesign.com > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack > > On 4/13/2016 11:23 AM, John Paulsen wrote: > > Travis: > > > > For clarities sake; is the AHJ asking that the sprinkler system(s) > > footprint conform to the smoke zone plan footprint? > > > > John Paulsen - SET > > Crown Fire System Design > > 6282 Seeds Rd. > > Grove City, OH 43123 > > P - 614-782-2438 > > F - 614-782-2374 > > C - 614-348-8206 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sprinklerforum > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET > > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 2:21 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Fire Sprinkler Plan to Match Evacuation Plan?? > > > > I have a reviewer stating that the fire sprinkler plan has to match > > the evacuation plan and the smoke zones of the fire alarm plan. This > > is an > > I-2 Occupancy. Has anyone ever come across this? After 3 weeks in > > plan review, he kicked it back saying he can't review until we > > provide this information. It is the first time I have ever heard of this. > > > > Travis Mack, SET > > MFP Design, LLC > > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive > > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > > 480-505-9271 > > fax: 866-430-6107 > > email:[email protected] > > > > http://www.mfpdesign.com > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > > Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprin > > kl > > er.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprin > > kl > > er.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
