What has posterity ever done for me?
> On 03/28/2023 2:27 AM å... .... <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Whoever conned or bribed the NFPA and FMGlobal into allowing the name > 'clean agent' to be used for fluorinated gas suppression systems got away > with murder. > > And while they are stable, until they are not (i.e. decompose in the fire > or after some time short of 'forever'...) > Many of these fluorinated organic gases are big greenhouse warmers. > They negatively impact the environment with leakage at the > production site > container storage ops > unintended activation of fire protection systems > The stupid part of naming them 'clean agent' is > we did not declare the basis of time for how long these chemicals are > 'clean' > These agents are clean for what... a 10-minute hold time? > > If these fluorinated organics are 'clean' > then NFPA 13 should be renamed 'Standard for Installation of Sprinkler > Systems Using Immaculate Agent' > > Water mist & even standard spray sprinklers are far superior options than > these 'Dirty Fluorinated Gas Agents' in most electronic equipment > rooms > > I bet with 80% confidence that there are more unwanted activations in > areas protected by 'Dirty Agents' > than there are fire saves' by 'Dirty Agent' fire suppression systems. > > And after an unwanted activation, > the 'Dirty Agent' industry charges the customer ~ 66% of the original > install cost, > just to refill the containers with more 'Dirty Agent'... > > Just say 'no' to most fluorinated gas fire suppression agents, or do our > homework > and be the stewards of society's safety that safety engineers are paid > and expected to be... > > What is the likelihood of fire loss (per hour of fire protection) vs fire > loss in US dollars, for electronic equipment rooms over the last 25 years? > The US military and US Coast Guard must have a number for this within 50% > of accuracy. > > > How many hermetically sealed hard-drives inside a cowling, have failed > from sprinkler water? > Why does fire protection so often apply the expensive and unreliable > solution, to its wealthy customers? > > > > > What is more sustainable and environmentally friendly than water? > > > > > These comments will upset the some people... > They are not new comments, I first made them about 17 years ago. > > > Ask ourselves a question, are we making decisions based on loyalty to our > status, our paycheck, or > are we making decisions based on efficiency with regard to laws of Nature > as engineers, efficiency > of energy and material usage. Are we being wise (i.e. predicting the > future with improved accuracy) > > > Scot Deal > Excelsior Fire & Risk Engineering > gms: +420 606 872 129 > > > > Civilization is a race between education and extinction h.g. wells > > Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - da vinci > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > SprinklerForum mailing list: > > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > [email protected] >
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