For what it's worth, I've confronted the brass/bronze issue too.  I had 
a large ingot of "bronze" used by a local artisan who did bronze 
casting.  I acquired it before I got very far into building live steam 
and thought that it would be a great source of bronze.  When it came 
time to make bushings for my boiler, I was concerned about it's zinc 
content.  So I took a piece and chucked it up in the lathe.  After 
truing, I took a heavy cut in order to obtain a thin but continuous 
piece of swarf.  I then put this in an air tight container with a few 
drops of muriatic acid (HCl) and waited.  After some amount of time 
(days or weeks, I can't remember), the swarf would just crumble in your 
hand.  So I assumed that this material contained too much zinc to use as 
boiler bushings.  In addition, I tried it for the cylinders of my 
Philly.  I can't remeber the way I discovered it but it turns out that 
the material had an abrasive effect on orings.  I then concluded that it 
contained silica (sand) and was unsuitable for any sliding surface use.  
I think that I used it to turn the domes and stack.  But it's not any 
good for what I had hoped to use it for.  So now I buy known alloy 
metals for critical parts.

royce in SB

J.D. Toumanian wrote:

>>>I wonder how many of us have
>>>had one of our unidentified brass bits disintegrate or whatever over
>>>the last, say 25 years? I certainly have had no problems and I don't
>>>know anybody who has.
>>>      
>>>
>
>
>I had a brass safety valve crumble on a scratch built LBSC "Dot" when I tried 
>to use a spanner to remove it.  The zinc was gone and the metal that was left 
>looked like sintered bronze... it was porous.  No telling exactly how old it 
>was, but to me it was "NOT OLD ENOUGH"!  Whenever I scratch build boiler 
>fittings these days I use bronze, although I too have been using surplus ends 
>from a local scrap dealer.  I am starting a 1.6" scale 2-8-2, and I will 
>purchase new material of a known composition for it's fittings.
>
>I've also had two toy steam engine boilers fail by developing leaks... One was 
>a Mamod tractor and the other was a Wilesco stationary engine.  Both had very 
>high mileage, so to speak, because they were toys from my childhood and I ran 
>them thousands of times.  Both failed in the middle of the bottom of the 
>boiler barrel, the hottest part, by developing pinhole leaks that eventually 
>got bad enough that they put the fire out.  Because they were hidden, I didn't 
>notice the leaks until they reached that stage.
>
>The Mamod got scrapped when I was 12 years old... I removed the engine and all 
>other parts and threw the defective boiler away.  I wish I still had it.  The 
>Wilesco boiler I removed and mailed to Wilesco as defective, and even though 
>it was probably decades out of warranty, they sent me a replacement and that 
>engine is still "in service" on a shelf in my library today.  Good customer 
>relations on their part if you ask me.
>
>Regards,
>Jon
>
>  
>

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