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well done dave!! - I saw today that the saint paul chamber of commerce opposed the ban (big surprise). this is what I would like to know - how did the chamber come to this decision - did it poll its members and if so can we see those numbers. i strongly suspect that a very few, not necessarily representative people, made the decision based more on the notion that any regulation of any kind on bidness is bad for bidness, Brian Bates MacGrove.
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It was a civil meeting (sorry, no major outbursts) Packed chambers. In my unbiased opinion he testimony of the pro ban side was most
convincing.
Pro ban: Gary Schiff, mpls councilmember came over to let us know we weren't alone. Ventilation expert testified smoke filters don't eliminate carcinogens Heart rending testimony from a cancer victim Testimony from African American community about targetting minorities by tobacco industry. Youth testimony challenging us as adults. 2 MD's representing our largest health care providers - "please support the ban" and more
Pro tobacco side: Bad for business Not about health, about economics Bars will shut down Freedom of choice Quit telling us what to do. Don't believe statistics. Smoking hasn't been proven to be a health risk.
The ordinance will be laid over now for 2 weeks, then amendments considered. If any are made the vote will lay over another week before it would be up for a vote.
Got a letter from Tempe AR Mayor debunking the convention bureau assertion that the city regrets their ban. He says it is popular and reports no bars out of business because of the ban.
Got a message from Roseville today. They are going to introduce one next.
dave ward two st. paul
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Hi All!
Am sure that some of us were at the hearing.
Initial feedback on eviiiillll talk radio is that the anti-smokes were very rude and the smokers were civil. Odd, I thought the smokers were the rude ones!
Any alternative takes?
Cheers!
PK
Never smoked (tobacco) but believes in letting businesses determine their own policy without politburo edicts.
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