In response to Mr. Tester's "let the market decide" comment, the trouble is 
whenever the market decides where to place "seamy" attractions, somehow they 
always end up in neighborhoods like Frogtown or lower West 7th St.  
I would agree with Mr. Tester if, just once, an undesirable business, 
transitional housing complex, or drug rehab center was built in the Summit Hill 
community or maybe the Mac-Groveland neighborhood.
 
The "not in my back yard" attitude always wins out over the "market".
 
Tait Danielson
West 7th St.


 
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:30:20 -0600
From: "Dennis Tester" 
Subject: Re: [StPaul] The Seamy Side of St. Paul
To: "St. Paul Issues Forum" , "Forum Manager"

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"This topic seems to have limited (very little) interest on this list, any 
thoughts on why that is?"

Probably because if they were to comment on such a topic, the liberals would 
be afraid they'd come across as prudes and the conservatives would be afraid 
they'd come across as perverts. (Or vice versa, I forget how that works). 
Being neither, I have no such concerns. But I am somewhat surprised that 
its an issue in the 21st century.

I remember back in the mid-70s I worked as an instructor for a large 
computer manufacturer. The classes consisted of male service engineers from 
all over the country. It was the ritual that on Fridays when a group of 
engineers was graduating and going home after several weeks of training, 
their instructor would take the class to lunch at Casey's on west 7th. The 
place was always packed on Fridays, with St. Paul's movers and shakers, 
including some prominent attorneys from City Hall. In fact, a female friend 
of mine told me that once she had to contact her uncle, who was a big shot 
city attorney, regarding a family emergency and she learned that he was at 
Casey's. In this era before cell phones, she had to go in there and get 
him. Embarrassment all around.

Our class lunch ritual eventually ended when, over time, the workforce 
became more gender-balanced.

Frankly, with the internet allowing people to access that sort of "product" 
without risking the embarrassment of being seen in such a place, I'm 
surprised such establishments are even still in bidness. But if they are, I 
don't see why they should be made illegal. All together now ... let the 
market decide.


Dennis Tester
Mac-Groveland








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