I doubt there'll be any changes of note from anybody.  Systems like ours
resist change by nature.
This fellow seems to agree.  Warning: British Obama Supporter...

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On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:50 PM, richardsan san <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Michael Luscombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>>
>> On 13-Oct-08, at 8:19 PM, Francis Drouillard wrote:
>>
>> > But I still have these nagging you aren't willing to answer with a
>> > simple yes or no.
>> --
>>
>> If it were a simple yes or no, then we'd be letting you run away with
>> "presumed facts", or lies, as they are commonly known.
>>
>>
>> > Did Obama have an association with Ayers?
>> --
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>> > Did Obama have an
>> > association with ACORN?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Obama did have an association with the "1997 Chicago Citizen of the
>> Year". But you know that.
>>
>> Of course, they live in the same city, one as a lawyer with an eye
>> toward civil liberties, and one an community involved educator with a
>> history of civil disobedience. I would be incredibly surprised if
>> anyone tried to say they didn't meet.
>>
>> I mean, two guys with liberal agendas, living in the same city, get
>> involved in a charitable organization and try to do liberal and
>> charitable things with the money.
>>
>> What's the scary part? Where's the terror? Did they hide a bomb
>> somewhere?
>>
>> I mean, the City of Chicago thought he was nice enough to honor. Can
>> McCain honestly say that none of the people he served with in the
>> Navy didn't go on to murder somebody?
>>
>> Seriously, you've got to make points. Mr.Ayers does have a past, the
>> idea that Obama may not want to make him part of the campaign logo
>> doesn't surprise me. That doesn't mean that Obama has some kind of
>> liberal terrorist programming.
>>
>> Didn't you all go through this already?
>>
>> "This issue is too important to wait for more facts, let us suggest
>> all the ways terrorists could kill your children."
>>
>> You really have nothing, and seriously, all you're suggesting is that
>> he hung around the guy. McCain regularly dismisses liberal opinions,
>> even though he's around liberals a fair bit. Are you suggesting that
>> Obama has no free will?
>>
>> I honestly don't know where any of this is going.
>>
>> Michael
>>
> it's a circle jerk, michael. no end in sight...i'm looking forward to
> exiting and positive changes after the republicans are voted out of the WH.
>
> >
>

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