>At 23:36 -0700 05/26/2002, Howie S wrote:
>
>
>>Heh, exactly... Dual G4 upgrade cards start at over $600.00 and go up from
>>there. Whoa.
>
>Anyone else looked at the specs on the new PPC750FX from IBM?  It's a
>1 GHz G3 with up to 20X multiplier.  Which means that on a 50 MHz bus
>you could still get 1 GHz on the CPU.   I'm not sure how much
>performance you'd lose with such a high multiplier.  Because our
>S900s tend to go up to about 60 MHz bus speed most of the time, you
>could probably do a 17X bus multiplier and something like a 59 MHz
>bus speed and still get 1 GHz.
>
>Further, IBM has put the 512KB L2 cache on the chip, so there's no
>need for separate cache chips (saves a little money in assembly) and
>the L2 cache runs full speed at the same speed as the CPU.   The
>disadvantage is that it's only 512KB and not 1 MB as most mid to high
>end upgrades are these days.
>
>I'm really drooling for an upgrade maker to stick this thing on a
>ZIF.    If I can figure out how to get my hands on a sample, I may
>buy a used 233 or 266 Apple ZIF and see if I can rip off the old chip
>and solder down one of these new ones.
>
>Mad Dog, you ever have any luck soldering on BGAs?  Actually, I'm not
>yet sure the thing is pin compatible with older CPUs.  IBM doesn't
>appear to have a data sheet on their site, only marketing type stuff
>so far.  Odd, since they claim it's sampling in early 2002.

SOrry, I never got past the theoretical stage.  While I think I can 
get a BGA off, I dont know how I
would put a BGA on.......

Plus, I thought these new chips had enough electrical differences to 
prevent thier easy use on the upgrade market.

>Jeff Walther

Mad  Dog

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