Thank you David and Robyn.  

Robyn: I see and hear about the formatting and then
they show up on the monitor-but no one had said how
you format a drive you can't find.

That's the problem.  Drive Setup, and I have several
versions, can't find the ATA HD.

David:  Updating the drivers.  You say 'Update Driver'
is in the Drive Setup app.  I open up Utilities, then
Drive Setup, and it immediately goes looking for the
drives.  Where is the 'Update Driver'?  Bill Smith

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