on 2/21/05 8:40 PM, Will Schoumaker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> From: ansberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:18:21 -0600
>> 
>> on 2/21/05 1:50 PM, Gregg Gorrie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> on 2/21/05 5:09 AM, Alan Kim at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ansberry wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I know that this old dinosaur will never really blaze through a
>> DVD
>>>>> rendering/burning, but I'd like to get it down to 10 to 12 hours.
>> What do
>>>>> you guys think? Would I be better off with the ide133 card?
> 
> Based on various tests and info from others and my experiences over the
> years I'd say no to the ide133 card.(unless yours is one of the VST ATA
> 66 cards) The card ratings and especially Hard drive ratings are lies
> and damn lies! It is a marketing game to get people to trade up to the
> newest and fastest. In our older machines the fastest your going to get
> is maybe 32-35 MB/sec and in most cases it will be slower. My Quantum
> IDE drives hooked to a Sonnet/Acard ATA 66 card both test at 32-34
> MB/sec and maybe a bit more. My newer Seagate drives will only do
> 25MB/sec or so. Now before the "buy a new machine" cheerleaders speak
> up ;-) Even a new G5 machine which uses the newer SATA drive interface
> and drives only benches at 39-55 MB /sec. depending on drive used. The
> G4 Quicksilver machines seem to be the first to show much speed
> improvement from faster rated Cards and drives. To get more speed in
> any of the machines you would need to hook 2 drives together in a Raid
> setup or go with the way too expensive for most of us high end SCSI. I
> do see an improvement in hard drives going from 4200 RPM to 5400 RPM to
> 7200 RPM drives.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the info. I guess I'm lucky. I don't have any trouble
>> capturing
>> from my camera to my ide drive attached to the ata66 card. It does
>> get some
>> very slight blocky glitches when I encode the video, but I've been
>> told that
>> that is a problem with the Toast compression.
>> 
>> Mike
> 
> I was going to ask for more info but now have a pretty good idea of
> what your doing. I do a far amount of Video work on my Umax machine and
> find it still does what I need it to. It sounds like your using Toast
> to encode & author DV to DVD. It is very likely that is one of the
> issues slowing things down and lowering quality. I've tried it many
> times and always found it slow and disappointing quality. In fact I
> just tried a newer version(of Toast) last week. It was faster but still
> poor quality with some blocky glitches. By poor quality I mean compared
> to the way I now encode and Author. I use "ffmpegX" faster and great
> quality and did I mention it's free/shareware! I mostly do video to
> CDR. It takes 5-6 hours to encode apox 45-50 min of video to SVCD on a
> CDR disk. Plays fine on most DVD stand alone players. Toast takes apox
> twice as long. My Umax machine has a G4 CPU running at 533 MHz . I have
> also done video to DVD but not yet timed it. I've been paying 10-15
> cents for quality TDK CDR disks and DVD disks until recently have been
> $2.00 or more even on sale. I just picked up 50 DVD-R disks for $12.50
> so will be using more in the near future. I highly recommend giving
> ffmpegX a try. It has a lot of options so will take a number of trial
> runs to find the settings that work best for you. Lots of how to info
> at the site and there is also a forum for help. I'm guessing your using
> OSX you don't mention. It is also important that your OSX boot drive
> isn't too full. Any less then 20% empty space and you will see a slow
> down.  Best of luck Will S
> 
> "ffmpegX" is @
> http://homepage.mac.com/major4/
> 

I have used ffmpegX to compress video to mpeg2.  But how do you get it to
set up menus and burn to a disk?  Do you use some other burning software
besides Toast?  
    I have the 10 gig limit on my startup drive with about 2.6 gigs free.  I
have recently optimized the other partition that I am using to save the .dv
files and the Toast temp items.   Before I did that I threw away a bunch of
junk and cleared about 14 gigs of space on it.  Maybe that will help.
    Really, the old S900 does pretty well.  I'm running OS 10.2.8 with very
little trouble.  I do a lot of digital audio, and it does great work on
that.  I run ProTools a little, and it has no trouble cranking out great
product.  I suppose letting it take some time crunching video is just
something I'll have to get used to.

Mike


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