on 2/21/05 8:40 PM, Will Schoumaker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> From: ansberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:18:21 -0600
>> 
>> on 2/21/05 1:50 PM, Gregg Gorrie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> on 2/21/05 5:09 AM, Alan Kim at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ansberry wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I know that this old dinosaur will never really blaze through a
>> DVD
>>>>> rendering/burning, but I'd like to get it down to 10 to 12 hours.
>> What do
>>>>> you guys think? Would I be better off with the ide133 card?
> 
> Based on various tests and info from others and my experiences over the
> years I'd say no to the ide133 card.(unless yours is one of the VST ATA
> 66 cards) The card ratings and especially Hard drive ratings are lies
> and damn lies! It is a marketing game to get people to trade up to the
> newest and fastest. In our older machines the fastest your going to get
> is maybe 32-35 MB/sec and in most cases it will be slower. My Quantum
> IDE drives hooked to a Sonnet/Acard ATA 66 card both test at 32-34
> MB/sec and maybe a bit more. My newer Seagate drives will only do
> 25MB/sec or so. Now before the "buy a new machine" cheerleaders speak
> up ;-) Even a new G5 machine which uses the newer SATA drive interface
> and drives only benches at 39-55 MB /sec. depending on drive used. The
> G4 Quicksilver machines seem to be the first to show much speed
> improvement from faster rated Cards and drives. To get more speed in
> any of the machines you would need to hook 2 drives together in a Raid
> setup or go with the way too expensive for most of us high end SCSI. I
> do see an improvement in hard drives going from 4200 RPM to 5400 RPM to
> 7200 RPM drives.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the info. I guess I'm lucky. I don't have any trouble
>> capturing
>> from my camera to my ide drive attached to the ata66 card. It does
>> get some
>> very slight blocky glitches when I encode the video, but I've been
>> told that
>> that is a problem with the Toast compression.
>> 
>> Mike
> 
> I was going to ask for more info but now have a pretty good idea of
> what your doing. I do a far amount of Video work on my Umax machine and
> find it still does what I need it to. It sounds like your using Toast
> to encode & author DV to DVD. It is very likely that is one of the
> issues slowing things down and lowering quality. I've tried it many
> times and always found it slow and disappointing quality. In fact I
> just tried a newer version(of Toast) last week. It was faster but still
> poor quality with some blocky glitches. By poor quality I mean compared
> to the way I now encode and Author. I use "ffmpegX" faster and great
> quality and did I mention it's free/shareware! I mostly do video to
> CDR. It takes 5-6 hours to encode apox 45-50 min of video to SVCD on a
> CDR disk. Plays fine on most DVD stand alone players. Toast takes apox
> twice as long. My Umax machine has a G4 CPU running at 533 MHz . I have
> also done video to DVD but not yet timed it. I've been paying 10-15
> cents for quality TDK CDR disks and DVD disks until recently have been
> $2.00 or more even on sale. I just picked up 50 DVD-R disks for $12.50
> so will be using more in the near future. I highly recommend giving
> ffmpegX a try. It has a lot of options so will take a number of trial
> runs to find the settings that work best for you. Lots of how to info
> at the site and there is also a forum for help. I'm guessing your using
> OSX you don't mention. It is also important that your OSX boot drive
> isn't too full. Any less then 20% empty space and you will see a slow
> down.  Best of luck Will S
> 
> "ffmpegX" is @
> http://homepage.mac.com/major4/
> 
I forgot... part of the deal with the 133 card is that I want to get a
REALLY large drive- like 250 gigs, and my 66card only recognizes something
like 139 gigs.

mike


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