Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
On the same news-server ...
Clicking "Click here to remove all expired articles" works for a
group and did not work for another group.
Any idea about the origin of this problem ?
I don't understand. You have two newsgroups and you see a posting
in one of the newsgroups that says to remove all expired articles,
and you expect it to remove them from the other newsgroup. Is
that what you're saying? If so, then it won't. It only works for
the current group you're in.
No no ... perhaps i had not explained enough :-)
Server: news.scarlet.nl - Group a: Name = scarlet.be.general
Server: news.scarlet.nl - Group b: Name = alt.binaries.fr.humour
Both group shows old posts with "Click here to remove all expired
When i click for the Group b: all goes well and the old posts
When i click for the Group a: nothing happen the old posts are
still there with the "Click here to remove all expired articles"
sentence - grrrrr... :-)
May be it's because the Group a: is a local group
(if you post on it, only who use/access from news.scarlet.nl can
(if you post on it from another independant newsserver (per example
news.stben.net), ... everybody can see it)
When you hover (hold your mouse pointer over) over the "Click here",
does your SeaMonkey display a URL/URI in the area on the bottom of
your screen? This is similar to what happens when you point to a link
on a web page!
If so what are those URLs/URIs? (please post)
Are they the same, except for the newsgroup names?
What happens if you enter them manually in the Browser?
The url: news://news.scarlet.be/alt.binaries.fr.humour?list-ids
WORKS OK if i enter it manually in the Browser
The url: news://news.scarlet.be/scarlet.be.general?list-ids
DID NOT WORK if i enter it manually in the Browser
I get the same type of URIs when I try to load an expired
(or sometimes a _temporarily_ not found) message from a newsgroup
and point at the "click here to remove all expired messages...".
When I enter the URI manually in browser url box, SM opens a new
Mail & Newsgroup window and downloads a full refresh of the articles
available for that newsgroup.
To best see this choose to view all article headers and sort them
by date. Save. Then enter the URI command news://... in the browser
and compare the newly downloaded article list with the old list.
Usually if articles have indeed been expired, you will see this
difference at the top of the list.
Note: Above I wrote (or sometimes a _temporarily_ not found)!
Sometimes, for some reason, an article becomes _temporarily_
irretrievable. Usually trying again a little later, retrieves
the article just fine! Why??? Perhaps someone wiser than I
can answer that one. :-)
No way .... expired articles are still there.
Peter (Potamus) .... what's your idea ? a problem at the news-server of
my isp ?
It just occurred to me . What do you mean by expired??
1. The article has been removed from the server, but the header is
still in the list on your computer. I.e. you are trying to retrieve
an article not on the server.
2. The article body been removed from the server, but the header is
still there on the server? (mismatch condition on the server)
3. Something in the article states that the article is supposed to be
considered out of date (expired) as of a certain date+time, but the
article is still there on the server.
That URI only affects case 1. i.e. it refreshes your local list.
It does not, can not, affect the articles that are actually on the
2. is definitely an error condition on the server. It should probably
be reported, with details, to the news server administrator.
3. is just information for the human reader. The article will delete
automatically from the server when it has reached the server policy
retention age, or someone (administrator) manually removes it earlier.
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