On 2015-04-11 03:02, Ronnie wrote:
As for the rest I would like to provide a few rebuttals.
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As a final note, if I'm going to have to explain or justify each and every decision made when trying to use SeaMonkey as the default browser in a distribution that has a substantial amount of users and put it back in the limelight, then maybe I should reconsider that decision as well. To be perfectly frank, outside old school technically inclined users (which i am as well) the browser doesn't get used by default because of its dated look and lack of features. Midori and Qupzilla get more play and its simply because they look modern. Sure they don't have the plugins yet but that doesn't matter, they are still adopted more often than Seamonkey. Palemoon is also getting substantial users because of the same reason, in fact even more so because more plugins are supported than SeaMonkey. I wanted to boost SeaMonkey interest and give it a platform to be showcased. I did plenty of research about most people gripes about the browser. Whether superficial or not, looks, and some relatively mundain features that were missing was the biggest gripes. It certainly seems like I'm making an effort, including bringing developers back to the suite, actually paying them as well for their work and giving what I think is the best possible chance to stay on the machine after install. If this is not the goal of the users here for their beloved browser, then next release the effort won't be made. I simply don't need all the grief, if you don't like they way I did it for the distribution. Then don't use the distribution. As far as I'm aware no other distribution even close to our popularity has even attempted to give it any thought. Here I thought I was doing something relatively noble. Apparently that is not something endeared here on the SeaMonkey mailing list. Constructive criticism is one thing. Battling 8 or more different users on here over every little decision is a level of pretentiousness I haven't encountered in a long time. I would have thought that perhaps some excitement was in order, apparently not.
I'm sorry but I think you greatly misunderstood my posts. I didn't intend to make you come up with any rebuttals or justifications for your choices and why would you want to battle me (or anyone?). I thought I could provide some constructive criticism regarding a few technical problems I have encountered. I asked you not to take my previous post negatively just because I have found a few problems. It is up to you what you do with it and my posting was not about whether I like it or not or if I will use your distribution with SM - most probably I will not because I'm not even a Linux user. I only became interested in your version of SeaMonkey and thought you might appreciate my observations because maybe you overlooked some of the glitches or whatever, or we might even help you with some of them. I don't know what you consider constructive criticism but if you don't want me (or us) testing your product and getting back to you with feedback then I don't really have to do this. And I am not arguing with the appropriateness of your decisions about the features intended for your audience but I may sometimes express my preference because it's impossible not to stay subjective.
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