I have been in desktop administration a long long time, professionally. Over the course of those years I've learned a couple things. More times than not users don't do much of anything. This the reason most normal users don't even change their homepage and or default search engine.
It sounds crazy to individuals like us, but it's very very true. A quick search will back that up. While some may find a couple things a little confusing, they can post their questions on the forums. However the typical user will go off of sheer looks and perhaps a feature or two missing. In its current default state I would be surprised if it lasted a day before it was replaced with something more modern looking with some standard feature they are use to. This is not me bashing the browser, I'm trying to keep it on the desktop after install. I think the browser is great, however it sorely needs some real attention. It feels like its dying and I don't want that to happen because I think it's better than most people give it credit for, a good example of this very same problem is claws-mail. By default it looks horrible and some standard features aren't enabled, one you put a new theme on it, add a couple plugins and set it up, it is quite simply totally awesome. It used to grace our desktop as well before the switch to seamonkey. if i have typos and stuff forgive me, i don't usually look very hard before clicking send Lemon Juice wrote: > On 2015-04-11 03:48, Ronnie wrote: >> Ronnie wrote: >>> Lemon Juice wrote: >>>>> 1. Trying to enable the bookmarks toolbar results in an empty toolbar >>>>> that doesn't seem to work - no bookmarks show up and no way to add >>>>> anything there. >>> The bookmarktoolbar is not broken. The bar appears but the >>> bookmarktoolbar button located in the customization option simply need >>> to be moved back to the bar. It was removed before the bookmarktoolbar >>> button takes care of that. Anyone able to customize the interface will >>> be sure to look there. >>> >> I forgot to add menu. In otherwords, the bookmarktoolbar button located >> in the 'customize' area was removed because the bookmarktoolbar menu >> replaces it. >> >> Both bars are totally empty for a reason. The navigation toolbar is >> empty because all the stuff there by default was moved to the titlebar. >> The bookmarktoolbar area was cleared out because when loaded with the >> exact same things that the bookmarktoolbar menu provides it actually >> ticks up memory use of the browser. Considering the number of addons and >> userstyles used any memory savings was something I wanted to achieve. >> >> You can add bookmarks and bookmarklets to the bookmarktoolbar menu in >> the same manner as the regular bookmarktoolbar just drag and drop. > > Yes, I understand the reasoning behind it and most of the shifts and > moves of items between the toolbars and why it ended up the way it is > but it was not what I meant. I didn't point out the 'problem' because > I want or need help or support from you how to deal with it. I > pretended I am a new ordinary user who plays with your SeaMonkey - > well, maybe a little bit more curious than ordinary, and I'm trying > out what I can do in this browser, clicking on different elements and > choosing options trying to discover what they do. And from this > perspective I am a bit baffled at finding options to show a bookmarks > toolbar and a navigation toolbar and the only thing they do is show > some empty space. > > I may understand why it is the way it is (being a developer myself) > but perhaps a different user will not. I think that when a feature is > removed then it would also be good to remove UI menus that lead to it > - otherwise there is a feeling that something is broken. These are > little things here and there and I don't know how important it is to > deal with them - you will be able to judge better. > > _______________________________________________ > support-seamonkey mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey > _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
