On 2015-04-10 21:43, Ronnie wrote:
well lxle linux is a live cd, meaning it can be tested without being
installed.
Without actually using/testing the browser, judging the modifications is
a bit difficult.
Those are the ones I decided on for the distribution. In no way will
they probably ever make it into SeaMonkey itself. So everyone can rest easy.
I actually used it in a virtual machine. The good thing was that the
installation was very quick and easy and everything worked out of the box.
My impression regarding SeaMonkey was just what I expected from the
screenshots because most of the interface customizations are known from
other browsers and these make SM look and feel a bit more like Firefox
but of course there are differences. One more thing I didn't like were
the hidden scrollbars - for me hunting with the mouse for invisible
scrollbars is not fun at all and before I was able to get my scroll
wheel to work in VirtualBox I was really lost.
But I'd like to say something different than my likes and dislikes
because this stuff will always be subjective. What I found was that the
customized SM was a little bit "disjointed", meaning that different
extensions and user styles were put together and they don't always seem
to cooperate well with one another or cause other unwanted glitches in
the UI:
1. Trying to enable the bookmarks toolbar results in an empty toolbar
that doesn't seem to work - no bookmarks show up and no way to add
anything there.
2. There is also an option to add Navigation Toolbar, which adds a
half-toolbar high horizontal empty space under the location bar - weird
and apparently has no use.
3. I tried to enable the main top menu bar (I suppose some users might
want this kind of customization) - there is no UI option for that, I
have to disable the Tiny Menu extension and further tinker with the
toolbars to get it back to the top. Pretty difficult to do.
4. When in full screen mode a user style hides the top elements, which
is fine, however when I move the mouse to the top, the location bar
shows up but does not go away when I move the mouse away - I have to
toggle full screen off and on again to hide it. Also, the tabs don't
show when I move to the top - how do I switch tabs? Oh, there are tabs
when I move the mouse to the bottom of the screen! It's nice but very
difficult to figure out this hidden and inconsistent behaviour.
5. There is an installed (but disabled) user style "SeaMonkey Tabs on
Top". When I enabled it then in full screen I was not able to see the
tabs at all - even at the bottom of the screen.
BTW, not long ago I made an extension
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/true-full-screen-in-seamonkey/
but it appears to be in conflict with Tiny Menu and there are problems
with auto-hide - just like there is a conflict with the full screen user
style you have bundled.
Although, I listed the problems I have noticed please don't take my post
negatively - I understand this is your first built-in SM release and
getting all the pieces to work nicely together is not an easy task and
requires a lot of work. Ideally, you (or other people) would write
customized extensions specifically for your distribution so that they
work without glitches - possibly even creating modified versions of
existing extensions should be enough to get rid of most of the problems.
(Tiny Menu is an ancient extension and also made for Firefox-only so
it's no surprise it causes problems...)
As I see it for a person who happens to like the interface out of the
box this works well enough. But if someone wants to customize it and
make it different then problems start appearing. Interestingly, one can
switch to another profile and have vanilla SeaMonkey without any add-ons!
Anyway, I'm happy to see that you have incorporated SeaMonkey into your
distribution!
BTW, I'm wondering why SM is called "Mozilla Build of Seamonkey"? If I
were a novice user wanting to go to the internet I think this title
would scare me a little :).
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