On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 01:12:53PM -0500, GeckoX wrote:
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> I was in China last year. I was able to create a VPN connection in the US 
> with no problem. Most of the web didn't work, even SSL. SSH was completely 
> blocked as well, which is why I was surprised that I could connect via VPN 
> with no problems. This was in Beijing.

I'm surprised SSL doesn't work - don't they _want_ to do business with
the West?
> 
> :brian
> 
> ++ 31/08/06 15:31 +0100 - Matthew Toseland:
> >On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 06:01:45PM +0400, Roman V. Isaev wrote:
> >> On 08/31, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> >> > > > Have you thought about that ignoring reset packets thing that was
> >> > > > shown to make it possible to bypass The Great Firewall? I mean, I
> >> > > > don't know too much about it, or if it'd be possible for
> >> > > > freenet....but it might be worth looking in to.
> >> > > That would involve platform-specific code, there's no way to do that 
> >> > > in 
> >> > > java.
> >> > It's unnecessary anyway because it only applies to TCP. It does however
> >> > tell us something very interesting and useful: The firewall is stateless 
> >> > !!
> >> > They pick up forbidden keywords on a packet and then send a reset
> >> > packet, they don't even delete later packets on the same connection
> >> > because *they don't track connections at all* !
> >> 
> >> But they will do that, sooner or later. It's just a matter of time. Another
> >> chunk of money for Cisco I guess...
> >
> >The interesting thing is you can connect to IRC and discuss forbidden
> >keywords... Also that study is curious because I heard they block the
> >whole page, rather than just interrupt it in the middle...
> >-- 
> >Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
> >Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
> >ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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