Ethan, Richard,

Thanks for the reply, I was choked but I am OK now :)

Who should I send the DevID and distID? or if you don't mind I deliver it
I don't know exactly what did you get from us to built AIM connectivity in
your Pidgin client.

OpenAuth path is
AIM Legacy 7.5.x  login path is port 443.

Please suggest 2 date/time for a quick call.


*Donald Le*
*Tech Director | Product Management and Support AIM Platform*
*O*: 703-265-5645 | *M*: 703-678-1073
*AOL Inc*. 22070 Broderick Drive Dulles, VA 20166

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Richard Vickery <> wrote:

>   Original Message
> From: Ethan Blanton
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 20:21
> To: Richard Vickery
> Reply To: Ethan Blanton
> Cc:;; Donald Le
> Subject: Re: AIM login
> Richard Vickery spake unto us the following wisdom:
> > Your "point of contact" is your company's IT department; we are
> > merely volunteers. Are you aware of the term "open source"?‎
> I realize you retracted this comment, but this sort of thing is
> becoming common (again) on this list. This comment is not directed
> entirely at you, you simply have the misfortune of being my example.
> Users, please do not take it upon yourselves to "defend" Pidgin or
> Pidgin developers. We are perfectly capable of doing so ourselves.
> Most indignant user responses like this that arrive on the list are
> misplaced.
> In this case, AOL has reached out to us, proactively, to notify us of
> a change in the protocol that is going to affect Pidgin and libpurple
> users. Asking for a specific point of contact to work through this is
> a VERY reasonable thing to do. AOL's engineers are paid, and spending
> time with a dedicated Pidgin developer at an established time is the
> best use of everyone involved's time and effort.
> I suspect this specific comment was a reaction to the language, not
> the content, and that is why it was retracted. However, rude
> responses to other corporate employees are not necessary, either; I
> have, for example, a form response that I send to confused Oracle
> employes that is much more useful and helpful than the snark often
> sent by list members -- particularly list members who have to have
> seen my rote response multiple times, and do not even include the help
> desk URL it contains.
> This is a community. I often send impatient and brusque emails,
> myself (the archives are proof of that), but I do try to direct them
> at those who deserve it. Please do the same!
> Ethan
> Thanks Ethan,
> This is very useful‎! My retraction was actually because my comment was
> late by at least 15 minutes even before I began reading what I was replying
> to and other more useful replies - where mine was completely useless, both
> in tone and content - were posted. Although I would like to point out, in
> defence, that if comments similar in content had not been made in the past,
> likely at least started by developers, my comments would never be made.
> My apologies,
> Richard
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