> I can use nettamer for ftp and smtp, I didn't try nntp yet so don't know
> if that works or not. The pop server is coming up and asking for a
> pasword, and I think it is getting it, but no mail is sent from the server
> to nettamer.

No reason to suspect their POP3 wouldn't work with Nettamer.
More often than not it's useful to ask the most trivial question first,
i.e.: *is* there any mail stored at the server ?

Use Telnet to login to the mail server and check:

Thanks to discussion on the SURVPC list, and to e.a. Eko Priono and
Ole Juul there, the practical steps with Nettamer are these:

(Best to set mail maintenance in Nettamer before that to "get new,
delete old only".)
Do not use the "check mail" login alternative but just:

Log in to the net access, then press [F2] for online functions:

TELNET with Nettamer to: "<POP3_mailer_adress>:110" ("110" is the
*usual* POP3 port there, may be different in some cases); wait for the
reply message from the server, usually some "+Ok this-'n-that-name
mailhost ready";

set Nettamer's Telnet mode to "send line feed" (with ALT+L - most mail
servers seem to need more than only CR with the ENTER key, all
keyboard inputs have to be ended each time with ENTER);

type: "user <your_username>"    ("@domain_name" is not necessary)

wait for an answer like "+Ok.....password required" message;

type: "pass <your password>";

wait for an answer like "+Ok user xxxx ...  has xx mails";
-- this gives the total number of mails at the server, including
   "old/read" ones;

-- you can use the following commands now: "list", "retr xx", "dele xx",
   "quit", and some others, each time to be terminated with ENTER;

key ALT+C to open a capture file, name it (don't name it *.DLU, as
the capture file will contain eventually even some of the Telnet
commands you type, and the Nettamer's "Reader" will choke on it - use
another reader afterwards, or an editor). If the mail server
use the next number after the last which downloaded correctly, and
announcement or the "list" command indicate that any mails are there,
you can download to the capture file with the "retr nn" command, where
"nn" is the order number of the messages hold at the server;

type: "retr <n>"

wait for it to download completely (timeout in Nettamer's Telnet mode
is longer than with GETMAIL, so there is a good chance it works);

type: "retr <n+1>", etc. until all msg.s are got;

type: "quit";

This gets you out of Telnet mode and back to the general online state
with Nettamer;

still online, you can try to use "GETMAIL" - it will indeed delete all
downloaded mails at the server (instead of doing that manually via
Telnet and then "dele nn" command there);

hang up phone (or do something else online).

It is a bit of a tiresome process, the more so as keyboard input in
Telnet always, and with a bad connectivity to the POP3 server
especially, has to be *very* slow (spaced some 3 to 5 seconds between
each keypress).

Heimo Claasen    /    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>    /     Brussels 1999-03-28
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