On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 09:37:44AM +0000, Steven C. Darnold wrote:

> > The lowmem 2.4 kernel from Slack 8.1 works on my test PC
> > with 8 meg ram, but bare.i does not.
>
> That is my fault.  I accidently included an old version
> of loadlin.exe.  It does not recognize a bzimage.  The
> correct loadlin.exe is available in the /kernels directory
> of Slackware 8.1.

Got it and now have bare.i kernel 2.4.19 running in 8 meg ram.

> Slackware 4.0 used an early 2.2 kernel.  The 2.2.19 kernel in
> Slackware 8.0 is superior.  BTW, the 2.2.19 kernel is better
> for low-RAM systems than the 2.4.18 kernel in Slackware 8.1.
> I tried a 2.4.18 kernel with 4mb RAM and it was horrible --
> the kernel takes so much RAM that even the startup scripts
> have to swap to HD.  I haven't seen so much HD thrashing
> since I tried to run KDE with 16mb RAM.

I'll try 2.4.19 for now, and go back to an earlier one if it
seems too slow. I know that I would probably have to use an
older kernel on my 386 with 5 meg ram, but after 12 years of
service, I think it may finally be time to put "maxa" out to
pasture.

> > So far, all the programs from the current distribution seem
> > to work.
>
> A 2.2 kernel should run just fine with Slackware 8.1.  The
> only issues I can think of are:
> (1) for a journaling filesystem, you should use a 2.4 kernel
> (2) for RAID volume support, you should use a 2.4 kernel
> (3) for accelerated 3D graphics, you should use a 2.4 kernel
> (4) iptables needs a 2.4 kernel (use ipchains with 2.2)

I'm still using kernel 2.2.19 on my main (Debian) box. I just
got the set (7) of Woody 3.0 CD's from my local LUG, but don't
see any big need for a new kernel. I've kept all the software
I use up-to-date over the Internet with apt-get.

It might be handy to get a current set (2 I think) of Slackware
CD's. I have always used Debian (I'm still no expert), but thanks
to BasicLinux, I'm starting to find my way around Slackware.

> > The Linux kernels just keep getting bigger. This seems to be
> > a major stumbling block for old systems.
>
> The new kernels are bloated with capabilities that are useless
> for old PCs.  You really need to recompile them to get the junk
> out (although even then they are still bulkier than earlier kernels).

This is something I have never done. One of these days... :-)

> > Once I had BL installed to my harddrive, I replaced several
> > busybox commands with the full ones from the Slack 3.5 CD.
>
> I hope you didn't have any problems.  Trying to replacing busybox
> commands can overwrite busybox itself and make every command in
> the busybox collection useless.

I think I just removed the links. I don't recall having any problems.

> > Now that I'm using the older kernel, I don't need the big
> > tarball. I can just grab the few small modules that I need.
>
> It's a pity that Slackware has moved away from that format.  In
> every distro before 8.1, the modules were available individually
> in the /modules directory.  However, in 8.1 there is no /modules
> directory, the only option is the full 8mb module package.

Well, now that the new kernel seems to run on my machine, and I've
already installed the big module package, I guess I might as well
use it. I imagine I could delete all the modules I don't need.

Take care,

Howard E.

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