>Steve > >I've seen China and the Soviet Union do this many, many times. It is >their way of getting something from us. This is just politics. Nothing >to it at all, in 6 months or so they will cough up what they want, if we >say yes then it's business as usual, if we say no then the ban will be >enlarged to include something else. Lots of big word and tough talk but >that's all it is. Most likely just driving the price down so they can >load up on cheap beans in 6 months or so, maybe a year > >George
The GM issue is an entirely new element in that old game, and takes the game to a new level which is not so easily predictable. Politics, yes, but not "just" politics, and not only politics. For one thing, China could emerge as a major player in the GM stakes, and seems to cherish such plans, which could make China and the US competitors, not just seller-buyer at their usual haggling. There's probably also some at least genuine concern about GM imports (and labelling), and not only in China. Other countries have succumbed to US strong-arm tactics on this issue, but that doesn't work well with China. Nor with the EU, where it's also being attempted, and less and less with Japan - all China's allies in this, in a way, along with others. It's a complex issue. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Osaka, Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > of course. biodiesel comes from plants, hydrogen from fossil fuels. you > > don't think the oil interests would let him get away with that? >hmmm. wonder > > what they will do with all those GM Soybeans they can't unload on china. > > Biodiesel anyone? > > > > > > Steve Spence > > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > > http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm > > > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ > > Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - > > http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Shukrainternationals" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 3:10 PM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] $7.5 Million Feedstock Subsidy for SSPC > > > > > > > Keith: > > > Not a word from Bush this morning (Feb. 25th) about biodiesl in his > > energy > > > policy speech! He is all for fuel cells. > > > Comment. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > > Cc: <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 10:03 PM > > > Subject: [biofuel] $7.5 Million Feedstock Subsidy for SSPC > > > > > > > > > > http://www.quicken.com/investments/news/story/bw/?story=/news/stories/ > > > > bw/20020212/a2118.htm&symbol=SSPC > > > > > > > > Southern States Power Co. Receives Approval For Up To $7.5 Million > > > > Feedstock Subsidy Under U.S. Department of Agriculture Bio-Energy > > > > Program > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/