Mark, If you have equipment that is 80% under utilized, it would be a wise decision to put it into use in an area that would exceed it's production capacity.
You may lose some of the equipment's "food grade" status. But that shouldn't matter from a monetary perspective as long as it's generating revenue. I would think that you would want to inventory the available equipment, ask someone to assess it's usefulness in biodiesel making and then evaluate what other costs would be incurred to incorporate it and acquire any missing components to complete a biodiesel process. It's not all grins and giggles when you get up to a scale that you seem to be alluding to. You will end up building an entire infrastructure around the equipment at hand in order to accomplish the feat. But at least you're already a leg up on most if you have idle tanks, pumps, plumbing, heat exchangers, agitators or anything else. If you had an inventory list it would be a relative snap to indicate to you how close or how far away you are from a complete biodiesel process. Todd Swearingen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel]was: dewatering WVO now regional WVO processing facility > Hello all, > The problems associated with small scale use of WVO and it's > inconsistant quality may be mitigated by a model I have been > considering. > I work for a Natural Foods company that handles a good deal of vegie > oils. I have all the equipment necessesary to filter and de-water WVO. > > Our equipment utilization is on the order of 20%. We have some fairly > sophisticated equipment used in falvoring various oils with organic > herbs and spices. Lots of water, lots of solids. > > Is there any demand for a regional, most likely co-op, WVO processing > facility? Assume we run at cost plus 10-15%, and could process > 1500-2000 US gal per 8 hr shift. Is there sufiicent demand to run 1-2 > days a week? > Is the "community" developed enough to deliver to the plant and > exchange WVO for filtered, water free WVO? > > Assume a major metro area, such as the San Francisco Bay Area. Is ther > the demand? Or, is the use of WVO by individuals, by it's very nature, > opposed to or unable to support this type of collection/distribution > system? > > I would assume it would be an oil in/oil out less production loss type > of deal. I have drums, carboys, totes, pails etc. that could be used on > a deposit basis. > > Just testing the "ahem" waters here. > > Thoughts? > > > Mark > > > > > --- Neoteric Biofuels Inc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, and then run it through a water separator filter or two on its > > way > > to the engine, if you want to do a more thorough job. Our G3 SVO Max > > kit uses this approach > > > > ...gravity settle only, followed by a trip through a heated filter > > with > > two stage filtration and water separation. > > > > Edward Beggs > > Neoteric Biofuels Inc. > > http://www.biofuels.ca > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 19, 2003, at 08:45 PM, Appal Energy wrote: > > > > > Brent, > > > > > > 100*C is the boiling point for water. To get rid of water by the > > > boiling > > > method not only do you have to expend massive amounts of energy, > > but > > > the > > > water wil inevitably atomize and stay mixed with oil to some > > degree, > > > even if > > > you boil the beejeebers out of it. > > > > > > Your best bet is to heat the oil to ~130*F (55*C) and let the water > > > > > settle > > > out. > > > > > > No point in wasting time, energy or creating problems. Just be sure > > the > > > settling period is sufficient. The deeper the oil resevoir the > > longer > > > the > > > settling time. (55 gallon drum, maybe 24-36 hours. 1,000 gallon > > tank, > > > maybe > > > 48-72 hours.) > > > > > > Todd Swearingen > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Brent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:52 AM > > > Subject: [biofuel] dewatering WVO > > > > > > > > >> I read the information on dewatering the WVO, but when I was > > heating > > >> the oil I noticed that when it was taken off the heat and poured > > off, > > >> that there was water settled on the bottom. Can this be a way to > > >> dewater more quickly? Just heat the oil to 100 deg. C and then > > pour > > >> the oil off the top? 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