Um, Keith? Isn't there a protocol here about outright nastiness? I think Quinn and co. have some valid points, and they're being drowned in this exchange. I'd like it a lot if we could get back to it.
Todd and Mark, you obviously have a LOT of knowledge about what is required to make a BD processor safe and reliable -- how about putting your knowledge and Quinn's ideas about pushbutton processors together, and see what you can come up with? An open sourced, mostly automatic, closed loop processor that could be made from scrap and off-the-shelf parts would seem to be the best of both worlds, to me, and I'm not thinking about breaking a nail -- I'm thinking about making a process independent of particular individuals, so that a small scale co-op could train and trust any member to operate the equipment. A pushbutton alone wouldn't do it, of course. The water-heater processor seems to come close, and it would be trivial to add some process automation to such a small scale system. The most heinous part of these off-the-shelf processor hucksters, to my newbie's eyes, is the attempt to make the chemistry look trivial or secondary when it is of course the core of the process. I suspect that one can make good fuel in a PETE conical tank, even rather safely, if one takes precautions, but I can't imagine that someone sold on the idea of a turnkey processor would be nearly as rigorous in their chemistry than someone who took the time to learn this from the ground up, or have anything like a real understanding of what was going on in the reactor. If they did, fine -- it's hard for skills to be seriously compromised by the available tools, since someone who knows what they're doing will just make do or adapt -- but I worry that the turnkey or pushbutton approach means selling the "ease" of a process which really requires some in-depth training to carry out reliably. And, yeah -- it's three grand. - Nathan ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/