It would take too long to go over all the posts that really blow it. There are so many of them. I'm going to stick with biofuels and related topics, and leave it to the rest of you muckrakers. I'm not the one who stirs stuff up, but I sure get beat over the head when I ocassionaly object to the stirring that goes on. You sure like it one sided.
= = = Original message = = = "There you go again" Steve. (Ronald Reagan, nationally televised debate with President Carter.) You know, for a guy that doesn't have enough time to address what he stirs up, you sure do like to keep that ladle moving. Please, would you do everyone a very big service and point to the half-truths (plural) and misinformation that you are eluding to? And when you've addressed those claims, please be so kind as to zero in on what aspects are "hateful." I would think that if you take such great acception with what others state that you would redress those statements specifically and steer clear of overly broad and sweeping generalizations. But then again, that type of evasiveness does serve it's purpose, doesn't it? Nothing wrong with a differing in beliefs. But it would be rather nice to see you put some substantiation in print. Todd Swearingen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry >I did not imply that being anti-bush is being anti-american. But we have >many on this list that are both. I don't believe I'm required to listen to >one side, without speaking up for the other side once in a great while. >Especially when I see half truths and hateful misinformation being spread. >99% of my posts are of biofuel, or alternative living content. Many here >post mostly political rhetoric, and although it's allowed, it does say >something about that person. On that note, I have an busted inverter to >repair, or we are on candle light tonight. I'm sure I'm going to get an >inbox full of response that I won't feel like reading when I have more >ontopic things to work on. > > = = = Original message = = = > > Steve, > > You have been so long on the list, that you know that the Americans are an > minority. If you looked at the latest international polls, the > international communities are quite ant-Bush. To say that if you are > anti-Bush, you are anti-American, is a dirty blow and way under the belt > and it is nothing that suggest or support such a statement. You must have > a > fairly low opinion of "foreigners" mental capacity, if you belive that we > cannot keep our opinions about US administration policies and Americans in > general apart. It is you who connects them. > > Hakan > > > At 04:30 PM 10/21/2004, you wrote: >>you missed "Republicans don't let their kids watch Nickelodeon, they have >>more sense than that ;-)" which skews the polls to primarily democrats. I >>can't prove that claim, but it sounds good. That channel (among others) >>will turn there minds to mush. My kids prefer the "wings" channel, wich I >>bet would have given completely different results. >> >>Sorry to see after three years, you still feel it's necesary to attack and >>drive away those with opposing (not necessarily wrong) viewpoints. >> >>somebody had to speak up, or folks will think this is the anti-bush, >>anti-american list, not the biofuel list. >> >>= = = Original message = = = >> >>Me thinks you missed the point Steve. >> >>When you say >> >> > Of course they believe whatever their parents do at that age. >> >>you corroborate that the majority of parents of those children are >>supposedly going to vote for John Kerry. >> >>That was, after all, the point of the poll - that children are perhaps a >>reasonably accurate barometer of the adult voting population. >> >>As for the rest of your remarks? >> >>Sorry to see that after three years of so many mistakes and errors in >>judgement you still believe that a myopically focused zealot who >>disregards >>reality and real world appraisals at every opportunity and corner is to be >>deemed more highly than those who examine all facets of a scenario and are >>capable of balancing decisions based upon broader and longer range >>consequences. >> >>Being resolute yet consistantly wrong are not quallities to be highly >>prized - no more for leader of the school grounds sandbox than a country. >> >>Mr. Bush reflects the contemporary, corporate, American mindset - >>quarterly >>results to impress stockholders, not long term profits that insure >>stability. Unfortunately, his repeat quarterly performances are so dismal >>as >>to warrant his ouster. >> >>Todd Swearingen >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:29 AM >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry >> >> >> > Good thing we don't let kids vote. Of course they believe whatever >> > their >> > parents do at that age. That's why we let them develop brains before we >> > let them vote. Republicans don't let their kids watch Nickelodeon, >> > they >> > have more sense than that ;-) >> > >> > Here's hoping for 4 years of anyone but Kerry. Hank the Angry Drunken >> > Dwarf maybe? Won't be the first time a dead man got voted in for >> > office. >> > >> > = = = Original message = = = >> > >> > Kids Opt for Kerry in Bellwether Online Poll >> > October 20, 2004 by Reuter >> > http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1020-08.htm >> > >> > LOS ANGELES - The kids have spoken, and it's >> > Sen. John Kerry with a convincing victory over >> > President Bush on Nov. 2. >> > >> > An unusual opinion poll that has correctly predicted the winner of the >> > last four presidential elections has given Democratic challenger >> > Kerry 57 percent against 43 percent for Bush, >> > according to results released on Wednesday. >> > >> > The Nickelodeon cable channel, better known for programs >> > "SpongeBob Squarepants" and "Jimmy Neutron," >> > conducted "Kids Vote," an online survey of >> > almost 400,000 children on Tuesday. >> > >> > The latest Reuters/Zogby poll showed Bush >> > and Kerry in a dead heat two weeks before >> > the Nov. 2 election. Other polls also showed >> > them in a statistical tie or Bush holding >> > a slim lead. >> > >> > Nickelodeon, a unit of Viacom Inc., >> > has organized its poll every election since 1988, and >> > has a 100 percent record of picking the winner. >> > >> > "The 'Kids' Vote' seems to work as a good barometer of the >> > actual presidential vote because, developmentally, >> > kids between the ages of two and 11 >> > share the same opinions and outlooks as their parents," >> > said Cyma Zarghami, president of Nickelodeon Television. >> > >> > The survey was the final step in a yearlong >> > political awareness campaign on Nickelodeon. >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. > Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___________________________________________________________ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. 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