I did not mean in the realm of discourse on this list; I meant that the current US administration is dragging the US and a large part of the world down with it. Bust does not have a mandate from 48.5% of the populace (or whatever - tho' I think both elections were fishy), and last I checked the "The coalition of the willing" was small and had dwindled to tiny.
Keith Addison wrote: >>Mike, >> >>Are they really? >> >>Then all the more reason to let them evidence their own stupidity and >>ignorance. >> >>There's a biblical verse that I've always been partial to. It's "My >>people perish for lack of knowledge." They did then (although it refers >>more towards spiritual knowledge) and they still do now. >> >>Let others display how patently little they know and oddly enough >>everyone becomes a little bit wiser.. >> >> > >Todd, if that were true only one time out of ten I'd still be >inclined to say the 10th time makes the other nine times worth it. >But I'd remind you of a couple of things, two list threads in >particular from a bit more than a year ago, I'm sure you'll remember >them: "Oil and Israel", and "Fahrenheit 9/11". Even if you don't >remember them, I sure as hell do. Far from the only examples to be >sure, but stark enough to make the point. > >Real-world communities and virtual ones are not the same, the same >behaviour can have very different results, and the same people can >behave very differently. In a virtual community, what's more likely >is that the Lowest Common Denominator factor will rule if it's >allowed to, and the list community itself becomes a little bit >dumber. Or a lot dumber. We've seen that enough times too. Not here. >It's highly probable that they'd take us with them. > >All best > >Keith > > > > > >>Todd Swearingen >> >> >> >> >>>But they are taking us with them. >>> >>>Appal Energy wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Keith, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>We've seen it plenty of times before, eh? What often happens next is >>>>>that they pretend it didn't happen and come back a month or two later >>>>>and do the same thing again, hit-and-run merchants. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>You're correct. But it takes all the fun out of it if nipped in the bud. >>>>Much more entertaining to watch them swing in the wind on a rope of >>>>their own choosing. >>>> >>>>Give 'em enough rope to hang themselves and most usually will. >>>> >>>>Todd Swearingen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Todd >>>>> >>>>>You could be right, I don't know. Maybe it's a genuine comment - what >>>>>do the latest polls say about how many Americans still believe Saddam >>>>>Hussein was linked to 9/11 and Al Qaeda and his WMD threatened the >>>>>US? How long ago did we totally trash all that here, three years ago >>>>>or was it four? >>>>> >>>>>But I'm not concerned about what he thinks or what he believes, you >>>>>don't just simply ignore people who question what you've said. Or not >>>>>here anyway. >>>>> >>>>>We've seen it plenty of times before, eh? What often happens next is >>>>>that they pretend it didn't happen and come back a month or two later >>>>>and do the same thing again, hit-and-run merchants. Best put a stop >>>>>to it at the outset. >>>>> >>>>>It's an example, I'm not saying it applies to Michael. But he made a >>>>>statement, it's been questioned, he should either support his >>>>>statement or withdraw it. That's what he'd have to do if it was a >>>>>face-to-face discussion among a group of people rather than a virtual >>>>>group, and IMHO there shouldn't be any difference. >>>>> >>>>>Anyway, Thanksgiving, I hope you all had a good holiday - much to >>>>>give thanks for, and much to grieve over too. Much to be done if >>>>>there's not to be less of the first and more of the second this time >>>>>next year. My very best wishes for that, and everybody else's too I'm >>>>>sure. >>>>> >>>>>All best >>>>> >>>>>Keith >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hey Keith, >>>>>> >>>>>>Just let him stew over his own statement and mis-beliefs. You see, >>>>>>people who make such remarks generally have nothing to back up their >>>>>>words. But their hope is that others will say nothing and just let their >>>>>>words stand, allowing a little more "doubt" to be spread amongst the few >>>>>>gullible or uninformed people who might still remain. >>>>>> >>>>>>It's guerrilla tactics at best, knowing full well that the armory has >>>>>>been empty for a very long time and that the last roll of hard tack was >>>>>>just washed down with stale water. >>>>>> >>>>>>In this case, it's he who some sympathy should be extended towards. He >>>>>>knows a sinking, worm-ridden ship when he sees one. Unfortunately he's >>>>>>too proud to admit that he's been duped all along and still clings to >>>>>>some hope that if he keeps his eyes closed tight for long enough that >>>>>>reality will somehow be different. >>>>>> >>>>>>We should all wish him well with his folly on this holiday, as his rude >>>>>>awakening is inevitably just around the corner. >>>>>> >>>>>>Todd Swearingen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Michael Jones wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>And I feel sorry for anyone who believes this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>Based on what, exactly? Anything more substantial than your opinion? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Other list members have questioned you too. A response with some >>>>>>>substance to it is required please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Keith Addison >>>>>>>Journey to Forever >>>>>>>KYOTO Pref., Japan >>>>>>>http://journeytoforever.org/ >>>>>>>Biofuel list owner >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11112.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Exclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab Ally >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Madness of war memo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>By Kevin Maguire And Andy Lines >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>11/22/05 "The Mirror" -- -- PRESIDENT Bush planned to bomb Arab TV >>>>>>>>station al-Jazeera in friendly Qatar, a "Top Secret" No 10 memo >>>>>>>>reveals. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>><snip> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
