Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

[C.E. Forman]

Tom,   This is interesting stuff (although I'm sure it must be frustrating for you).  I'd like to do a column article warning people about some of these loopholes, would you mind if I quoted you?  Won't identify you if you prefer, since I understand PayPal gets pissed at stuff like that.  But if you'd care to share any more scammers' methods that'd be great, we can help people defend against them.   Let me know.  TTYL!   ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse In a message dated 10/01/2003 3:11:37 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not to play Devil's Advocate, but I am going to put items online soon and wanted to accept PayPal.  If I insisted on delivery confirmation for everything that I send, and I pay for it myself, and told the customer that I would require delivery/signature confirmation in the auction description, then wouldn't it be fair to assume that I would have complete seller protection? Well you'd have to take insurance too, if package does not make it they could reverse it. The only time you are going to get screwed is with a dishonest buyer or maybe if a package gets lost but good to know the facts. Paypal tells me it comes down to my word against buyer if something goes wrong but the rules are set in stone, without delivery or SIGNATURE confirm in some cases THEY ALWAYS RULE FOR THE BUYER. Being in the business I am I've seen a lot more scammers/cheats that most of you have, paypal encourages the cheats, people actually pass on info how to use paypal to steal from honest sellers. For virtual items or services:  Would escrow be applicable here?  If not, is it fair to learn from your experiences and require check or money order from now on for virtual services? Well of course, reason for my post is to let people know the "rules", everyone makes thier own decision. Prepared is the way to be, protect yourself as best you can. Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash,  Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page